Remote participation

[Kieren]

The issue with colours is with text over - it doesn't always match (and there are some seriously bad combinations!)

If colour is used in design to theme parts together then fine.

Aha! You see, I'm not just a pretty face. Well, actually, I'm not a pretty face, but I do know a thing or two about colour. I chose those colours because black and white writing both work on them. And also the colours make fairly strong connections with the words - well, as strong as words can with colours: red for security; an African orange for diversity; green is go for access; and blue for sky for openness.

I have done another pic to show the writing. But if your point was that all the writing be on these colours - god no! - just use them as useful flags for people - and of course to add colour. I can't go on enough about how much more people interact with websites if they are colourful.

My only concern is that the colours may appear too flippant. But I like them. If people don't believe I have made the case for coming up with themed colours, just say so, and I will go into greater depth. Likewise if people don't like the colours, I think the onus should be on people to post alternatives. If they're better, I'll be the first to say so, but there isn't time for umming and erring.



Chengetai tells me he's opened up a poll feature on the forum so we figure out what best to do with it and also take a poll on these colours, but I can't get it to work at the moment.

I also decided that the most pragmatic way of going about this was to have a site to work on. As such I have registered http://igf2006.info and I've bought a good hosting deal for it.

My suggestion is that we piece together what's good and use the server space for the domain to test things out and store information. I am happy to provide whatever server access is required by people, obviously with the usual caveats and warnings.

I will also be in California from tomorrow until next Saturday, moving around alot so I may be sketchy in replying for a week - although I will be checking email and doing as much as I can.


Kieren

[Kieren]

... just use them as useful flags for people - and of course to add colour. I can't go on enough about how much more people interact with websites if they are colourful.

It's just occurred to me, it would great if we could have the four themes - access etc - in the different UN languages on a front page - like the front page of the UN site - http://www.un.org/

English, French, Spanish, Russian, Mandarin, Arabic

Does anyone have a clue how we can get the translations of Access, Diversity, Security and Openness in these languages and in a large transparent gif file so they can be simply used for a range of different occasions?

I could do French and Spanish at a push but no chance with the rest - the UN must have someone who can do this in a flash, surely?


Kieren

[admin]

Would this indicate that you would be accepting input in these languages as well?

[Kieren]

Would this indicate that you would be accepting input in these languages as well?

The honest answer is: unlikely.

Although any site could put up scans of plans and documents for the IGF - which presumably would be in different languages and if there was a wiki, that would enable people to write in different languages.

Plus if the graphic exists, it could be used by others for whatever means they wish to put it to.

I suppose the question is: how much hassle is it for you to do this? If it is easy, then I think it would be useful having; if it costs you time and money you can ill afford and would be better spent elsewhere, then don't worry.



Kieren

[Jeremy Malcolm]

I realise you are talking about polling rather than voting

Actually - what is the difference between a vote and a poll? In the UK we use the term interchangeably - we go to the 'polls' to 'vote' for political candidates for example!

I take it to be that a poll carries the sense of "opinion poll", and a vote is a mechanism for decision-making.

[Nontas]

I don’t know if this is the right place to present my idea, but according to what I have read you can offer me some help to the realization of my idea, especially in technical terms.

As there are many MUN programmes held in various places of the world and under the auspices of many institutions, I am thinking that it would be novel to be set up a MUN-like website. In short, the proposal concerns chatroom discussions, which will be governed by the same rules as those of the United Nations conferences. The
participants, via their computers, will be given the chance to represent a
country - why not their country - by delivering small speeches and by voting for or against other delegates' proposals. The visitor of the E-MUN webpage will have the opportunity to browse the results and the documents of previous conferences, to vote or propose a subject to be discussed in the coming e-conferences and take part to the e-conferences either as a country delegate or an observer.

Furthermore, since we are entering the era of E-Governance and even the UN are moving to this direction by forming the Internet Governance Forum, I share the opinion that the IGF meeting in Athens would be an exquisite chance to discuss and promote such an idea. Moreover, if you think that this is a promising idea, I’d love to hear your comments and provide you with a more elaborate presentation of my idea.
 
I am aware of the fact that working groups proposals dead line has passed, but I believe that if you find my proposal interesting, a formula can be found for this idea to be discussed and promoted in the context of the IGF meeting in Greece.

[Jeremy Malcolm]

I am aware of the fact that working groups proposals dead line has passed, but I believe that if you find my proposal interesting, a formula can be found for this idea to be discussed and promoted in the context of the IGF meeting in Greece.

Maybe one of the existing workshops can be used to discuss these themes? -

http://info.intgovforum.org/yoppy.php?poj=9
http://info.intgovforum.org/yoppy.php?poj=70

[Kieren]

I don’t know if this is the right place to present my idea, but according to what I have read you can offer me some help to the realization of my idea, especially in technical terms.

As there are many MUN programmes held in various places of the world and under the auspices of many institutions, I am thinking that it would be novel to be set up a MUN-like website.

Nontas,

I really think at the moment it is a matter of "build it, try it, see if it works".

If you build a fully functional website as you suggest, I am sure that everyone involved with the IGF will provide links to it and then it will be a case of seeing whether people find it useful.

I hope I'm not misrepresenting the IGF/UN staff when I say that at the moment, they don't feel as if they can impose - or should even seek to impose - any particular solution on the meeting. It is a blank canvas so if you think your idea is a good one, the IGF meeting is a perfect testing grond and will most likely create the template for future meetings.

But there is a tight deadline now, and, of course, if it isn't up and working, the best idea of the world will remain only an idea.

Or, as Jeremy suggested, hook up with one of the workshops, and perhaps build a test site to encourage people to try it.


Kieren

[rikomatic]

I am aware of the fact that working groups proposals dead line has passed, but I believe that if you find my proposal interesting, a formula can be found for this idea to be discussed and promoted in the context of the IGF meeting in Greece.

Maybe one of the existing workshops can be used to discuss these themes? -

http://info.intgovforum.org/yoppy.php?poj=9
http://info.intgovforum.org/yoppy.php?poj=70

I will be speaking at the second of the two workshops you mention.  I will try and raise the issues brought up here, which I think are vital ones.

[IDOA.info - Internet Domain Owners Association]

We, the Internet Domain Owners Association, IDOA.info, would like the IGF to adopt the remote participation procedures which ICANN adopted in its first few years (1999 - 2001/2), but which, unfortunately, it no longer adheres to:

1. Have a email address specific to Forum remote participation which is moderated by someone at the Forum, and allow all registered remote participants to email.

2. Have them display the e-mails from remote participants in real-time on a screen in the main meeting room for all to see.

3. Have the moderator or an officer or Board Member read and open up for discussion the topics, ideas and opinions emailed in by the remote participants, organized by major topics, so as to give actual voice to the remote participants input - and allow a good hour or more for this.

4. Have the complete body of emails sent by registered remote participants displayed on the IGF's website and archived there.

Sincerely,

Matt Hooker
Chairman
IDOA.info
Internet Domain Owners Association
info@IDOA.info

[Jeremy Malcolm]

This is not too different from what is now in place.  Emails can be sent to comments@igf2006.info, or questions_e@igf2006.info in the case of questions for panellists.  If you prefer for your comments to be archived, then blog them - as blogs will also be monitored and fed into discussions.  Make sure we know about your blog though - the easiest way is to ensure that is to write it at http://igf2006.info, otherwise send me or Kieren an email.

[CloudiaY]

I have several questions to the Forum.  How many outcomes are going to be released for this forum?  And in what ways these outcomes will be used by IGF Secretariat?  And the last question is, what’s the difference between this IGF Discussion Space and [at igf2006.info]?

[Jeremy Malcolm]

The "outcomes" are just going to be an official report about the main sessions, and the workshop reports if provided, and any submissions made.  Also, "dynamic coalitions" may form between people and groups who attended.

No, I don't think this is enough either, but I'm willing to cut the IGF a bit of slack during its first year.

Next question: the Secretariat won't do anything with the outcomes.  Although the IGF's mandate requires it to liaise with other organisations, there is no structure within which for that to happen either. Again, maybe next year.

Final question: this site was set up by the Secretariat, and igf2006.info was set up by me and by Kieren McCarthy, but is "endorsed" by the Secretariat, and currently hosted on its server.

[CloudiaY]

Thanks for your answer.  If there is any way I still can deliver my question to the forum floor?  Do they still open to questions or suggestions from the virtually site since this is the last day?

The "outcomes" are just going to be an official report about the main sessions, and the workshop reports if provided, and any submissions made.  Also, "dynamic coalitions" may form between people and groups who attended.

No, I don't think this is enough either, but I'm willing to cut the IGF a bit of slack during its first year.

Next question: the Secretariat won't do anything with the outcomes.  Although the IGF's mandate requires it to liaise with other organisations, there is no structure within which for that to happen either. Again, maybe next year.

Final question: this site was set up by the Secretariat, and igf2006.info was set up by me and by Kieren McCarthy, but is "endorsed" by the Secretariat, and currently hosted on its server.