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<p>Hi everyone</p>
<p>IMHO, the WG-IMP does not have only a clerical task ahead.
Cleaning up the tables and adding a few markers are indeed
clerical tasks, but this is just a preparation for the real work
that is expected from the WG, which is the assessment of how far
the IGF advanced towards the real implementation of the proposed
improvements. In many cases, assessing recommendations may ask for
an evaluation from experienced members of the community. <br>
</p>
<p>The assessment is clearly indicated as the first (and main)
purpose of the WG in the charter of the WG-IMP as it has been
created in 2017:
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level1 lfo1"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">●<span style="font:7.0pt "Times
New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Review the set of
recommendations
for IGF improvement and documents that offer direction or
community input on
specific topics to assess the extent to which they have been
implemented. For
those which are considered implemented this would be noted in
a report of the
group and, for those still in the process of being
implemented, and those which
have yet to begin implementation, recommendations would be
made.</span></p>
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<p>I just kept the same purpose in the charter proposed for 2018.<br>
</p>
<p>I see the WG-IMP providing a very much needed input to the
WG-MWP, although I may agree that there may be some overlapping
between the two WGs, when we say that one of the purposes of the
WG-IMP is to make recommendations, as some of these
recommendations may fall within the scope of the WG-MWP.</p>
<p>Regarding a possible merge between the two WGs, this is of course
a possible practical solution, even if I think that their goals
are complementary. But I would of course leave this decision to
the MAG.<br>
</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Flavio<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Em 06/04/2018 18:12, avri doria
escreveu:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:82b06051-eb99-6d53-d053-a9e1b7c9c25f@acm.org">
<pre wrap="">Hi,
I question the continuing need for this Wg.
For the most part any of its future possible actions were subsumed in
the creation of the WG-MWP, so all that is left is the clerical task of
cleaning up the tables and adding a few markers on the degree of
completion. Any work about how to move forward from there is an WG-MWP
task, if I understand that charter and the reason that group was created.
Not that it matters, but I think any pending tasks for this group could
be absorbed by the WG-MWP.
avri
On 04-Apr-18 14:49, Flávio Rech Wagner wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">
Dear colleagues of the WG-IMP
The MAG is now deliberating on its Working Groups for 2018.
Our WG-IMP achieved partial results that were presented in the message
copied below, which we sent to the MAG by December 14, 2017. That
message also proposed possible next steps, in case the WG is
re-chartered and continued in 2018.
I think that we all agree that this WG deserves continuation in 2018,
as the assessment of proposed improvements is very relevant for the
future of the IGF. Because of that, I suggest that we propose the
continuation of the WG in 2018. For this, the MAG would need to
approve a new charter for 2018 and choose new WG leaders.
You find attached a first draft of a possible charter for the WG
continuation in 2018. I am suggesting very few adjustments to the
charter from 2017 (which you may also find attached), especially
adding a new section "Next steps", which just repeat the next steps
that we proposed by the end of our work in December 2017.
I urge you to send your comments as soon as possible, as we need to
send a possible proposal to the MAG in the next few days, so that the
WG continuation may be approved during the next MAG virtual meeting,
in about two weeks from now.
Please notice that none of the 2017 WG co-chairs (myself, Avri,
Deborah) is a MAG member in 2018, so that new WG leaders will need to
be appointed.
The MAG Chair and the Secretariat will decide on the best way to
forward our proposal to the MAG.
Best,
Flavio
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Dear colleagues of the MAG
The MAG WG on Improvements to the IGF completed a first version of a
table gathering proposals of improvements to the IGF that have been
proposed in previous years. You may find the table here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TdxEe0Qit3qAMCaGeyOLOl4PvUIuY3Nv5hmBsq0_OfE/edit#gid=0">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TdxEe0Qit3qAMCaGeyOLOl4PvUIuY3Nv5hmBsq0_OfE/edit#gid=0</a>
The table contains proposals of improvements from five different sources:
1. The CSTD WG on IGF Improvements Report (2012)
2. Implementing WSIS Outcomes: A Ten-Year Review (2015)
3. Recommendations made by UNGA on renewal of the IGF mandate
(December 2015)
4. Draft report from the DESA Retreat (July 2016)
5. The NETmundial Multistakeholder Statement (April 2014)
These reference documents may be found here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4C745NEsGNqZWhIdlh3c1R0VGc">https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4C745NEsGNqZWhIdlh3c1R0VGc</a>
For the recommendations proposed by the "CSTD WG on IGF Improvements"
(first source above), the table already contains an assessment of
their achievement. This assessment was made by a previous MAG WG in
2013 and must be updated, of course.
The table includes a column "Tags", which contains tags that allow a
finer classification of the recommendations (tags are still missing
for some recommendations). This may be useful for a better
clusterization of the recommendations and for potential mergers among
similar recommendations.
The table has been divided into two main parts. The bottom part
contains recommendations and considerations that do not necessarily
correspond to "improvements".
The WG suggests that the table could be extended with recommendations
coming from published submissions to consultations on IGF
improvements, even if they weren't adopted.
Suggested next steps for the WG include:
* extend the table with recommendations coming from published
submissions to consultations on IGF improvements;
* revise and correct the table as needed, for instance:
o make adjustments to the categories and tags in columns
Category and Tags;
o potentially merge similar recommendations coming from
different sources;
o potentially remove recommendations that are not considered
relevant or consensual;
o move recommendations from the bottom part of the table to the
top part, or vice-versa;
* launch the assessment of the progress made by the IGF towards the
achievement of the various recommendations;
o for that purpose, discuss and approve an adequate methodology.
The continuation of this work of course depends on decisions to be
taken by the new MAG.
We are looking forward to your comments and suggestions.
Best regards,
Flavio, Avri and Deborah, WG co-chairs
</pre>
</blockquote>
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