[Bp_ipv6] BPF IPv6 - 2nd call, meeting notes
Wim Degezelle
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Sun Jul 17 13:12:19 EDT 2016
Thank you John for this offer.
Noted.
Kind Regards
Wim
Wim Degezelle
Consultant IGF BPF on IPv6
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Wim Degezelle
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> On 16 Jul 2016, at 15:07, Brzozowski, John <John_Brzozowski at comcast.com <mailto:John_Brzozowski at comcast.com>> wrote:
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> While I have not been as engaged as I hoped in this effort if there is information from a Comcast point of view that you feel would be useful feel free to reach out.
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> John
> +1-484-962-0060
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> From: Bp_ipv6 <bp_ipv6-bounces at intgovforum.org <mailto:bp_ipv6-bounces at intgovforum.org>> on behalf of suprita <suprita.nitw at gmail.com <mailto:suprita.nitw at gmail.com>>
> Date: Friday, July 15, 2016 at 04:34
> To: Wim Degezelle <wdegezelle at drmv.be <mailto:wdegezelle at drmv.be>>
> Cc: IGF BPFs <bp_ipv6 at intgovforum.org <mailto:bp_ipv6 at intgovforum.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Bp_ipv6] BPF IPv6 - 2nd call, meeting notes
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>> A reference to Comcast case study on IPv6 making its network smarter, greater performance and functional benefits.
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>> http://www.networkworld.com/article/3088322/internet/how-ipv6-lays-the-foundation-for-a-smarter-network.html <http://www.networkworld.com/article/3088322/internet/how-ipv6-lays-the-foundation-for-a-smarter-network.html>
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>> Best Regards,
>> Suprita
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>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Wim Degezelle <wdegezelle at drmv.be <mailto:wdegezelle at drmv.be>> wrote:
>>> Dear All,
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>>> Please find below the meeting notes of the 2nd virtual Call of the BPF IPv6.
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>>> A doodle poll to schedule our next meeting follows.
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>>> Best Regards
>>> Wim
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>>> <> <>‘Understanding the commercial and economic incentives beneath a successful IPv6 deployment’
>>> IGF 2016 – BPF IPv6
>>> 2nd Virtual Meeting
>>> 7 July – 12 pm UTC
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>>> Summary
>>>
>>> 1. The 2016 Best Practice Forum on IPv6 held its second open virtual (webex) meeting on 7 July 2016 at 12pm UTC. The BPF IPv6 Coordinator, Ms. Izumi Okutani the meeting. The Meeting confirmed the BPF’s Scope and Goals, discussed the BPF’s structure and work plan, and brainstormed on outreach to collect contributions to the BPF’s content.
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>>> 2. The webex recording of the meeting can be accessed at: https://intgovforum.webex.com/intgovforum/ldr.php?RCID=5213be14d19c0b75a0dc6405d751b8e5 <https://intgovforum.webex.com/intgovforum/ldr.php?RCID=5213be14d19c0b75a0dc6405d751b8e5>
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>>> 3. The draft Scope and Goals were distributed on the bp_ipv6 at intgovforum.org <mailto:bp_ipv6 at intgovforum.org> mailing list on 21 June 2016 and discussed at the 1st open Virtual meeting (23 June). No additional comments were received after the virtual meeting. The participants confirmed the Scope and Goals (annexed). The document will be published on the IGF website.
>>> 4. The general timeframe for the BPF IPv6 was discussed. The proposed timeframe envisages the publication of a comprehensive draft for public comment by early October, the organization of a Best Practice session during the IGF meeting in Guadalajara, and the publication of the final outcome of the BPF IPv6 by the end of December 2016.
>>> 5. The participants discussed a work plan to reach the goals of the aforementioned timeframe and identified five different stages: (google doc <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C7z8MRVBOmBsuWxpl8YivXZWFvksKCq0_ul7TlFJzIU/edit?usp=sharing>)
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>>> I. Define the problem statement, scope and goals (done)
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>>> II. Fact finding:
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>>> - Observe general trends in IPv6 deployment;
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>>> - Identify countries and economies with high deployment rates;
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>>> - Indicate factors, decisions and organizations that explain the high deployment in those economies.
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>>> III. Collect case studies and analyse the economic and business incentives beneath the decision to deploy IPv6.
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>>> IV. Collect cases where certain incentives didn’t work or deployment was challenged due to specific circumstances.
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>>> V. Make observations and conclusions
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>>> 6. APNIC, studies on IPv6 deployment in Latin America, the World IPv6 Launch project (Internet Society), and other were suggested as source for the fact-finding.
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>>> 7. Participants suggested several cases that would be worth analyzing: T-Mobile, Apple, Rabobank, Wells Fargo, Facebook, etc.
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>>> 8. It was suggested to collect data on basic economic indicators such as GDP, average income, average prices for services, etc., and investigate potential links with high IPv6 deployment rates.
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>>> 9. The participants discussed outreach on the BPF IPv6. It was agreed that two different kind of outreach are needed: (1) outreach to collect input for the BPF output document and (2) outreach on the outcome of this years BPF.
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>>> 10. The participants discussed outreach to parties and organisations that could contribute interesting case studies and content to the BPF. It was stressed that special effort is needed to reach out outside the technical community and involve economic and business decision makers in different sectors.
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>>> 11. It was noted that later on in the process the BPF should also reflect on a strategy to reach out on the outcome of the BPF IPv6. Such a strategy should aim to increase the visibility of the 2015 and 2016 outcome documents and promote them as a useful source for all involved in processes to promote, decide, plan and execute IPv6 deployment.
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>>> 12. Next steps:
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>>> - Fact-finding: All are invited to contribute studies, analysis, statistics and other material on IPv6 deployment; (on the mailing list or google doc)
>>> - Case studies: All are invited to suggest references for case studies. (on the mailing list or google doc)
>>> - Outreach: The Coordinators will call upon MAG members, in particular those representing the business community, to help identifying and reaching out to business and economic decision makers.
>>> All are invited to reflect on how to involve their networks and network’s networks to identify and reach out to business and economic decision makers.
>>> - Next meetings: a schedule for the upcoming virtual meetings will be set up.
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>>> 13. Practical information
>>>
>>> - BPF IPv6 webpage:
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>>> - BPF IPv6 mailing list: bp_ipv6 at intgovforum.org <mailto:bp_ipv6 at intgovforum.org>
>>> (Subscribe at http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/bp_ipv6_intgovforum.org <http://mail.intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/bp_ipv6_intgovforum.org>)
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>>> - Brainstorming document: (google docs) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C7z8MRVBOmBsuWxpl8YivXZWFvksKCq0_ul7TlFJzIU/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C7z8MRVBOmBsuWxpl8YivXZWFvksKCq0_ul7TlFJzIU/edit?usp=sharing>
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>>> - summary by Wim Degezelle
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>>>
>>> List of Participants
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>>> 1. Olivier Crépin-Leblond
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>>> 2. Wafa Dahmani
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>>> 3. Marco Hogewoning
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>>> 4. Aaron Hughes
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>>> 5. Michael Oghia
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>>> 6. Douglas Onyango
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>>> 7. Sander Steffann
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>>> 8. Izumi Okutani (BPF coordinator)
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>>> 9. Wim Degezelle (BPF consultant)
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>>> Annexes (I)
>>>
>>> IGF IPv6 Best Practice Forum 2016
>>> Scope and Goals
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>>> Introduction
>>>
>>> During the 2015 Best Practice Forum Creating an Enabling Environment for IPv6 Adoption, part of the Internet Governance Forum’s intersessional work program, a group of volunteers from the global multi-stakeholder community came together over several months to share, collect and discuss different high level practices used around the world that help to promote and encourage the global adoption of the Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6).
>>> The end result of this open and iterative process, was an outcome document titled "Creating an Enabling Environment for IPv6 Adoption." This document was discussed during a dedicated session at the 2015 IGF meeting in João Pessoa <>[1] <x-msg://59/#m_-6568127712782119256__ftn1> and published on the IGF website. <>[2] <x-msg://59/#m_-6568127712782119256__ftn2>
>>> Last year’s BPF addressed the question of “Why adopt IPv6?” and identified hurdles to its deployment. It focussed on the role that IPv6 Task Forces and capacity building initiatives play in encouraging IPv6 adoption. The BPF also collected best practices from the private sector, and addressed various approaches used by different governments, National Research and Education Networks, and Universities in promoting and deploying IPv6.
>>> There is still opportunity to update the 2015 doc with recent examples to keep the document ‘alive’ without having a time-intensive review. We encourage all stakeholders to spread words about last year’s BPF document on IPv6, as well as to share additional experience and successful case studies as the primary means of encouraging adoption.
>>> In their conclusions, the BPF group suggested to continue the work on the IPv6 BPF in 2016 to address other elements of the IPv6 adoption, in particular the economic decision-making model and commercial incentives that lie behind a successful implementation of IPv6.
>>>
>>> Scope
>>> The IGF BPF on IPv6 will bring together representatives from different stakeholder communities and offer a great opportunity to look at the topic of IPv6 adoption with focus on economic element and business cases. The BPF will not replicate or duplicate work already undertaken by other groups (e.g. the substantive work or technical training done by Internet technical community). Rather, the BPF will take any such work as a starting point and input for the discussion. The BPF should focus on how stakeholders can help each other and exchange best practices.
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>>> Goals for 2016
>>> Last year’s BPF on IPv6 focused on creating capacity building platforms and awareness raising, in the form of national and regional IPv6 taskforces and other initiatives. Building upon the conclusions of last year, the BPF on IPv6 organizers now suggest a focus on the economic decisions and commercial drivers behind the decision to adopt IPv6.
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>>> Problem statement
>>> Feedback received from the participants to the IPv6 BPF last year, especially those with a technical community background, suggests that the decision to adopt IPv6 is not only a technical one, but that other economic factors play an important role.
>>> Most of the networks that make up today’s Internet are built and operated on a commercial basis, and must build IPv6 adoption into their business plan, accordingly. The same goes for not-for-profit and public sector network operators, who must also take into account the cost versus benefit when deciding to upgrade their networks to the new version of the Internet Protocol. The number of networks that support IPv6 today proofs that IPv6 adoption is a technically feasible option for businesses. IPv6 adoption is on the rise - not only in the global North, but also in a number of states in the southern hemisphere and there appears to be little correlation to GDP and IPv6. There remains some questions such as:
>>> • Why is there such a difference in IPv6 adoption in comparable markets?
>>> • While cost is often cited as a reason not to adopt, why are commercial ISPs of all sizes deploying IPv6.
>>> Some studies explore the “why and when” of IPv6 adoption <>[3] <x-msg://59/#m_-6568127712782119256__ftn3> or try and model the economic effects of IPv6 adoption versus the prolonged use of IPv4 <>[4] <x-msg://59/#m_-6568127712782119256__ftn4> <>[5] <x-msg://59/#m_-6568127712782119256__ftn5>, but in general there is not that much documentation around the commercial aspects of IPv6 adoption, especially not based on specific positive cases of adoption. This will be the focus of the 2016 IPv6 BPF.
>>> While a lot of technical documentation exists, together with a broad spectrum of technically focused capacity building activities, the 2016 BPF would like to invite people to share their commercial experiences with IPv6, with the aim of establishing a better understanding of the commercial and economic incentives that sit beneath a successful deployment of IPv6 in commercial as well as public sector networks and Internet services.
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>>> Annexes (II)
>>>
>>>
>>> Proposed schedule Virtual meetings BPF IPv6
>>>
>>> Call 1, mid June:
>>> · Introduction
>>> · Kick off discussion Scope and goals
>>> Call 2, begin July:
>>> · Confirm scope and goals
>>> · Discuss proposed structure and workplan
>>> · Fact finding (I): collect statistics, identify countries with high deployment,
>>> · Outreach: Who, in those region can explain who/what is behind the high figure.
>>> Call 3, end July/begin August:
>>> · Confirm the countries and cases we want to look at;
>>> · Outreach:
>>> · Reach out to collect case studies
>>> · Discuss questions to ask, “What do we want to know from them?”
>>> Call 4, end August/begin Sept
>>> · Evaluate the feedback so far:
>>> · Discuss content of the case studies;
>>> · Need for additional cases and outreach?
>>> · Lessons learned and observations
>>> Call 5 / 6, end Sept and early October
>>> · Observations,
>>> · List the incentives,
>>> · Look for cases where the found incentives did not work, and try to explain why.
>>> · (Prepare workshop at IGF)
>>> Call 7, mid/end October:
>>> · Discuss the feedback received via the public platform
>>> · Review and Update the draft document
>>> · Prepare workshop and outreach at IGF
>>> · Outreach plan: How to reach out on the outcome of the 2015 and 2016 BPF outcome?;
>>> Call 8, mid/end October
>>> · Outreach plan: How to reach out on the outcome of the 2015 and 2016 BPF outcome?;
>>> Call 9, begin December
>>> · Discussion on the feedback received during the workshop and public review platform;
>>> · Final review of the document
>>>
>>>
>>> <>[1] <x-msg://59/#m_-6568127712782119256__ftnref1> https://youtu.be/zdjxQYPWRTk <https://youtu.be/zdjxQYPWRTk>
>>> <>[2] <x-msg://59/#m_-6568127712782119256__ftnref2> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/documents/best-practice-forums/creating-an-enabling-environment-for-the-development-of-local-content/581-igf2015-bpfipv6-finalpdf/file <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/documents/best-practice-forums/creating-an-enabling-environment-for-the-development-of-local-content/581-igf2015-bpfipv6-finalpdf/file>
>>> <>[3] <x-msg://59/#m_-6568127712782119256__ftnref3> http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1759&context=ese_papers <http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1759&context=ese_papers>
>>> <>[4] <x-msg://59/#m_-6568127712782119256__ftnref4> http://www.caida.org/funding/ipv6-adoption/ipv6-adoption_proposal.xml <http://www.caida.org/funding/ipv6-adoption/ipv6-adoption_proposal.xml>
>>> <>[5] <x-msg://59/#m_-6568127712782119256__ftnref5> http://www.rmv6tf.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/1-The-Cost-of-IPv4-IPv6- <http://www.rmv6tf.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/1-The-Cost-of-IPv4-IPv6->Transition.pdf
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