[IGFmaglist] Visa issue should be addressed as part of Host Country Agreement!

Thu Oct 17 20:20:34 EDT 2013

Dear Mr. Djoko,
Based on Mr. Patrick email and the result of the latest decision from Director General of Immigration MoFA, could you reply to this matter (VOA) for Titi and Veronica ? Thank you.
Best regards,
Moedjiono
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-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Ryan <patrickryan at google.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:09:37 
To: Sardjoeni Moedjiono<moedjiono at gmail.com>
Cc: MAG List IGF<igfmaglist-bounces at intgovforum.org>; KI Ditj Aptel Anthonius Malau<anto013 at kominfo.go.id>; KI DJOKO AGUNG<djok002 at kominfo.go.id>; MAG List IGF<igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>; Ditj Aptika Kiki (Rizki Ameliah)<rizk002 at kominfo.go.id>; Vyatcheslav Cherkasov<cherkasov at un.org>
Subject: Re: Visa issue should be addressed as part of Host Country Agreement!

Moedjiono,

Thank you for this update---unfortunately, the news comes way too late for
some of the affected participants.

In the case of our own Titi Akinsanmi (Google's Head of Policy for Nigeria
and Ghana) she is with us this week at the Google Headquarters in Mountain
View in meetings through the end of the week.  For Titi to receive her
visa, she would need to first travel back to Nigeria to pick up her visa
and then travel to Indonesia, and the timing and cost for this additional
routing is making it very difficult for her to attend because of the
extraordinary expense and unconventional routing.

In the case where there are no Indonesian embassies (I believe this is the
case for Moldova) the problem is similar.  I don't know how many people are
in this category, although I hope that we can talk through this when we are
in Bali so as to make sure that this kind of problem is addressed further
in advance.

This may be impossible, but if there is any way for the Government of
Indonesia to take the extraordinary measure to make sure that visa
applicants like Titi and Veronica (and others in that category) can receive
their visas on arrival at the airport, this would be a very strong sign of
good faith.  It won't be easy, because the appropriate representative from
MoFA would need to (a) organize the exception, (b) contact the airlines to
let them know (so that they are allowed to board), and (c) issue other
letters as may be required.

I realize that such measures may be difficult to undertake at this late
hour, but I genuinely hope that the government will consider taking this
on.  The universe of people that are in this category is reasonable, and
with the appropriate effort, it is possible for a solution to be found.

Patrick

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On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Sardjoeni Moedjiono
<moedjiono at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear all,
> ID-IGF Committee has just finished meeting with Directorate General of
> Immigration MoFA on Wednesday (16 October 2013) concerning the visa issue,
> and all of you who have sent your name to us have been approved. MoFA has
> sent the decision to all of Indonesian Embassy and representatives all over
> the world. Please check again to Indonesian Embassy and representatives.
> Please apologize us for the inconvenience. Thank you.
> Best regards,
> Moedjiono
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Veronica Cretu <veronicacretu at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear colleagues in MAG, greetings and hope this finds you all well!
>>
>> I know many of you are on the way to Bali and I wish you all a very
>> successful Forum!
>>
>> Unfortunately, given that there were no any follow-ups/solutions on the
>> visa for Indonesia (including VOA), I am not able to participate in the
>> forum in person.
>>
>> I do hope that the visa issue is taken seriously for the next IGFs and
>> this should be one of the issue to be included in the Host Country
>> Agreement if we want to provide access to as many stakeholders from all
>> around the world, including to MAG members!
>>
>> We are all advocates of technology, innovation, Internet, however, when
>> it comes to such matters we do not use them in an effective manner to
>> address the challenges we face.
>>
>> I wish all of you great success and I am convinced IGF 2013 will be an
>> exceptional event, with several great outcomes!
>>
>> Will follow you remotely as much as I can, given the great time
>> difference challenge!!!
>>
>> With very best,
>> Veronica
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:37 AM, <moedjiono at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Vlada,
>>> Thank you for your information. MCIT has sent the request for VOA for
>>> them to Immigration department MoFA. Mr. Anthon from MCIT will inform you
>>> concerning this matter. Apologize me for this problem. We have tried hard
>>> to solve this problem with Immigration department MoFA. Hopefully it will
>>> be solved soon. See you all in Bali. Thank you very much again.
>>> Best regards,
>>> Moedjiono
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