[IGFmaglist] Visa issue should be addressed as part of Host Country Agreement!

Fri Oct 18 17:34:23 EDT 2013

Moedjiono, All,

Just to add to Sanja's comments about the passport information, this also
happened last year when Azerbaijan hosted the IGF (the disclosure names and
passport numbers---which together are considered confidential, as Sanja
notes). Most MAG members will recall that there was quite a bit of outrage
from the community (particularly those that specialize in privacy) when
this happened last year in the case of Azerbaijan.  It might be wise to
look back and see where else this letter may have been distributed (if it
was sent anywhere other than the MAG list) and to make a similar appeal not
to disclose the details of personally identifiable information.

Best,

Patrick

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*patrick ryan *
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On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Sanja Kelly <Kelly at freedomhouse.org> wrote:

>  Dear Moedjiono,
>
>  Thanks for working tirelessly to get this resolved.
>
>  One thing that concerns me is that the forwarded document contains the
> passport number for most participants on the list, which should be
> considered as confidential information. In fact, several members of the
> Freedom House delegation are among those whose passport number is made
> public. So, I'd like to ask everyone not to circulate this list to others.
>
>  Best,
> Sanja
>
>  Sanja Tatic Kelly
>
> Project Director, Freedom on the Net
>
> Freedom House
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Veronica Cretu [veronicacretu at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 18, 2013 12:19 PM
> *To:* Sardjoeni Moedjiono
> *Cc:* Vladimir Radunovic; MAG List IGF; Sanja Kelly;
> amessinoukossi at yahoo.fr; Patrick Ryan; KI Ditj Aptel Anthonius Malau; KI
> DJOKO AGUNG; MAG List IGF; Ditj Aptika Kiki (Rizki Ameliah); Vyatcheslav
> Cherkasov
>
> *Subject:* Re: Visa issue should be addressed as part of Host Country
> Agreement!
>
>   Dear Moedjiono,
>
>   Many thanks for this email and news! I imagine it has not been easy on
> your side either ...
>  However, this comes very late in time when for me, personally, nothing
> can be done - given that UNDESA has been the one providing support for my
> participation in IGF, and it takes some 3-5 days to get in touch with local
> UNDP office, have the money wired, get the tickets, book hotel, etc. All
> these are arrangements that are done at least 2-3 weeks in advance.
>  I hope that might be a solution at least for those who's organizations
> are able to arrange and pay for the trip right away.
>  It is a pity that discussions started in May in Geneva on visa issue are
> being solved a weekend before IGF starts.
>
>  Good luck with the Forum and make it a success!
>
>  Veronica
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Sardjoeni Moedjiono <moedjiono at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  Dear Ms. Veronica and all,
>>  Attach is the letter from Director General of Immigration stating that
>> the list of participants who can get the Short Visit Visa on Arrival. I see
>> : Veronica Cretu (20), Raul Echeberia (27), Adiel Ayodele Akplogan (31),
>> Anne Rachel Inne (32), Vladimir Radunovic (34), Titilayo Alujurmoke
>> Akinsanmi (99), Morenets Yuliya (149), Farzaneh Badiei (182), Alice Wanjira
>> Munyua (200), Makane Faye (219), etc.
>>  Hopefully, you are all there. Please bring the copy of this letter with
>> you to the airport. See you all in Bali. Thank you very much.
>>
>>
>>  On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Veronica Cretu <veronicacretu at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>  Dear colleagues in MAG, greetings and hope this finds you all well!
>>>
>>>  I know many of you are on the way to Bali and I wish you all a very
>>> successful Forum!
>>>
>>>  Unfortunately, given that there were no any follow-ups/solutions on
>>> the visa for Indonesia (including VOA), I am not able to participate in the
>>> forum in person.
>>>
>>>  I do hope that the visa issue is taken seriously for the next IGFs and
>>> this should be one of the issue to be included in the Host Country
>>> Agreement if we want to provide access to as many stakeholders from all
>>> around the world, including to MAG members!
>>>
>>>  We are all advocates of technology, innovation, Internet, however,
>>> when it comes to such matters we do not use them in an effective manner to
>>> address the challenges we face.
>>>
>>>  I wish all of you great success and I am convinced IGF 2013 will be an
>>> exceptional event, with several great outcomes!
>>>
>>>  Will follow you remotely as much as I can, given the great time
>>> difference challenge!!!
>>>
>>>  With very best,
>>> Veronica
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:37 AM, <moedjiono at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Vlada,
>>>> Thank you for your information. MCIT has sent the request for VOA for
>>>> them to Immigration department MoFA. Mr. Anthon from MCIT will inform you
>>>> concerning this matter. Apologize me for this problem. We have tried hard
>>>> to solve this problem with Immigration department MoFA. Hopefully it will
>>>> be solved soon. See you all in Bali. Thank you very much again.
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Moedjiono
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>>>> From: "Vladimir Radunovic" <vladar at diplomacy.edu>
>>>> Sender: "Igfmaglist" <igfmaglist-bounces at intgovforum.org>
>>>> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:39:17
>>>> To: 'Sanja Kelly'<Kelly at FreedomHouse.org>; <amessinoukossi at yahoo.fr>;
>>>> 'Patrick Ryan'<patrickryan at google.com>
>>>> Cc: 'KI Ditj Aptel Anthonius Malau'<anto013 at kominfo.go.id>; 'Ditj
>>>> Aptika Kiki \(Rizki Ameliah\)'<rizk002 at kominfo.go.id>; 'MAG List IGF'<
>>>> igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>; 'KI DJOKO AGUNG'<djok002 at kominfo.go.id>
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>>
>
>
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> *Veronica Cretu *
> *
> **President, "CMB" Training Center,
> **Republic of Moldova - www.cmb.md *
>
>  *Member of the Steering Committee, *
> *Open Government Partnership (OGP);*
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>
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