[IGFmaglist] Participation at IGF by MAG members

Marilyn Cade marilynscade at hotmail.com
Wed May 25 09:04:14 EDT 2016


Flavio.Excellent. 
I vote for the IGF Secretariat taking the appeal, as the Chair of the MAG is chairing the MAG, not running the IGF Secretariat. :-0
And  I entrust the Secretariat with the day to day details. 
One other item: earlier, I think that Peter Dengate Thrush proposed a sort of SOI - statement of interest -- and probably that would be helpful for all MAG members. 
this is not a conflict of interest but a statement of interest, and just helps in transparency and helps all MAG members, in my view.  

SOIs should help to inform all MAG members about engagement, involvement and interests. 
Again, it is not a 'conflict of interest' but a statement of interest. 

To: igfmaglist at intgovforum.org
From: flavio at inf.ufrgs.br
Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 09:47:37 -0300
Subject: Re: [IGFmaglist] Participation at IGF by MAG members


  
    
  
  
    Dear all

      

      

      Trying to summarize the issues on which there seems to exist an
      agreement, and highlighting differences between Peter and Marilyn
      positions:

      

      1. We should recognize and publish the names of MAG members that
      play the role of "organizers" of sessions of different types.

      

      2. We do not accept MAG members organizing workshops.

      

      3. If a MAG member coaches a workshop proposal, or if s/he is part
      of an organization proposing a workshop, s/he must declare a
      conflict of interest and refrain from reviewing / rating / voting
      on this proposal.

      

      4. We adopt a 3+1 rule [option: we adopt a 2+1 rule],
      whereby MAG members can appear in at most 3 (or 2) workshops /
      other types of sessions and in at most 1 main session. Exemptions
      to this rule are accepted in exceptional cases, which requires
      that the MAG member seeks dispensation. The MAG chair [option:
        the IGF Secretariat] is entrusted with making those
      decisions.

      

      5. MAG members should not play the role of moderators of main
      sessions, especially in the main sessions they are organizing /
      facilitating.

      

      

      So we have two decisions to take:

      

      A) Rule for MAG members appearing at the microphone: 3+1 or 2+1.

      

      B) MAG chair or IGF Secretariat is entrusted with making a
      decision on dispensation of MAG member from the rule above (3+1 or
      2+1).

      

      

      Did I miss something?

      

      Best regards

      

      Flavio

      

      

       

    
    
      
      My comments are in CAPS below.
        

        
        M

          

          
            
            

            
            There seems to be agreement on a couple of issues.
            

            
            1. We should more formally adopt the role and title of
              “organiser” for those MAG members who do all the hard work
              of getting a session off the ground. That includes
              workshops, Main sessions, posters, or any other format
              that we use. We should aim to publish the names of the
              “organising committee” as part of the programme. That will
              reflect credit where its due, and may also assist with the
              employer-funding visibility issue that seems well
              understood. It distinguishes that work and those workers
              from those people actually appearing at the microphone.
            

            
            THIS SOUNDS VERY USEFUL BUT AGAIN, WE SHOULD NOT ACCEPT
              MAG MEMBERS ORGANIZING WORKSHOPS, THAT WE THEN RATE AND
              APPROVE. I AGREE AS FAR AS THE MAIN SESSIONS ARE
              CONCERNED. 
            

            
            A MAG MEMBER THAT COACHES A WORKSHOP MAY NEED TO RECUSE
              THEMSELVES, AND A MAG MEMBER THAT IS PART OF AN
              ORGANIZATION, WHETHER CS OR NGO, OR TECHNICAL COMMUNITY,
              OR BIZ THAT IS DRIVING WORKSHOPS THOUGH THEIR OFFICIAL
              WORKING ROLE, SHOULD RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM VOTING. 
            A MAG MEMBER THAT INFORMALLY COACHES THE ORIGINATION OF
              A WORKSHOP BUT HAS NOT AN ONGOING ROLE MAY STILL VOTE, IN
              MY VIEW.
            

            
            AND, YES, THIS MAY BE A BIT OF SELF GOVERNANCE.
            

            
            BUT MAG MEMBERS SHOULD NOT BE ORGANIZING WORKSHOPS AND
              THEN RATING THEM
            

            
            2. There seems general agreement that MAG members
              should not be appearing at the microphone- or not much.
              Some are in favour of a ban, with an application for
              occasional dispensation. Others prefer something a bit
              less restrictive. My experience as a regulator suggests
              people actually do work better when there is a clear rule
              to follow. It can be published widely, form part of the
              induction process, and lessens confusion.
            

            
            I AM NOT SO HARSH ABOUT A MAG MEMBER APPEARING AT THE
              MICROPHONE. THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM ASSUMING A MODERATOR
              ROLE OR CO MODERATOR ROLE, ESPECIALLY IN A SESSION THAT
              WAS ORGANIZED BY A LARGER GROUP OF MAG-ITES, OR MAG+.
            

            
            I WAS NOT AWARE THAT YOU WERE EVER A REGULATOR, SO AM
              LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT THAT! JUST KIDDING. [HMM,
              CHAIR OF INTERNETNZ; AND THEN CHAIR OF ICANN, AND THEN...
              -- NO REGULATOR STUFF IN THAT LINE UP]
            

            
            WE SHOULD NOT IGNORE THAT WE ARE EVOLVING AND THAT
              FRANKLY, SOMETIMES THERE MAY BE THE NEED FOR FLEXIBILITY. 
            

            
            3. Given that this is an evolutionary process, perhaps
              we can build on the success of the past use of the 3+1
              concept. We already have a paper on Main Sessions that
              says MAG members can appear on one session. If we add the
              rider that this should not be a session that they are on
              the organising committee for, perhaps we can keep that. 
            

            
            I SUPPORT, AS LONG AS YOU SHOW SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT
              ALLOWS FOR AN EXEMPTION. 
            

            
            4. For Workshops and other formats, we could limit the
              number of speaking options to 2, again with the rider that
              these should not be sessions for which the MAG member is
              on the organising committee or is otherwise a sponsor. 
            

            
            I THINK THAT WE SHOULD STICK WITH 3. I DID NOT SEE THAT
              THERE WAS AN EMPIRICAL SURVEY THAT ASKED WHETHER THAT
              WORKED, AND WHEN IT WAS NOT ADHERED TO, AND BEFORE MOVING
              TO TWO, I ASK FOR THAT.  PERSONALLY, I FIND THAT TRYING TO
              LIMIT MYSELF TO ONLY TWO, THEN RESULTED IN A LATE
              INVITATION TO FILL IN AND MAKE SURE THAT A WORKSHOP WAS
              BALANCED, AND I DID NOT HAVE TO ASK FOR DISPENSATION, BUT
              COULD JUST 'MAKE IT SO'.
            BUT STAYED WITHIN THE RULE OF THREE. 
            

            
            5. Everyone is free to seek dispensation for when a
              special circumstance arises. I suggest the MAG Chair be
              entrusted with making those decisions. If they feel the
              need, they can consult with staff, form a committee etc
              according to the need.
            

            
            I THINK THAT STICKING WITH THREE FREES THE MAG CHAIR
              FROM BEING TOO DEEP IN THE MANAGEMENT OF THE PROGRAM, AND
              IN FACT IF THIS IS SUPPORTED IT SHOULD BE THE SECRETARIAT,
              NOT THE MAG CHAIR. 
            

            
            In summary, we will enhance the visibility of the
              organising role, and lessen the speaking role to a narrow
              2+1 format, with dispensation available if needed.
            

            
            Does that have general support - or at least
              acceptance?
            

            
            Further comments welcomed.
            

            
            

            
            Regards
            

            
            

            
            Peter
            

            
            

            
            

            
            

            
            

            
            

              

              
              

                
                  
                    On 21/05/2016, at 8:00 pm, Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>
                      wrote:
                    
                    
                      Thank you Flavio, Marilyn, Virat,
                        Petter and all for the clarification. I am now
                        clear in my mind and for this reason i agree on
                        all points,
                          especially continuing the policy from 2015 on
                          MAG member participation.
                        

                          
                        Cheers
                      
                      
                        
                          
                            
                              
                                
                                  
                                    
                                      
                                        
                                          
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                        On Fri, May 20, 2016
                          at 11:41 PM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
                          wrote:

                          
                            
                              
                                I was the originator of
                                  the initial discussion that led to
                                  creating the 3+1 as a standing
                                  agreement when I came in as a MAG
                                  member, and many other MAG members
                                  agreed. That is what led to the
                                  '3+1'. 
                                  

                                  
                                  I did this because as a non MAG
                                    member, I saw many workshops with
                                    MAG members submitting workshops, or
                                    using their affiliated entities to
                                    submit workshop proposals, and then
                                    having to select them and then being
                                    speakers, or moderators.  And the
                                      annual IGF was then  having the
                                      same co moderators over and over,
                                      year after year, for the main
                                      sessions.
                                  

                                    
                                  We need to
                                      remember that IGF and MAG has been
                                      evolving and in perhaps earlier
                                      years, this overwhelming role of the MAG was well
                                      intentioned, and well meaning, and
                                      we were perhaps struggling to find
                                      speakers, and co moderators, who
                                      could get funding to attend. 
                                  

                                    
                                  However, in 2014,
                                      and 2015, we have made progress
                                      and in my personal view, 
                                  I think that the
                                      3+1 remains realistic, and
                                      pragmatic, and does not penalize
                                      MAG members too much. I realize
                                      that we each, as MAG members are
                                      doing a tremendous amount of work.
                                      But I continue to insist that MAG
                                      members not submit workshop
                                      proposals, and I hope that
                                    those on the MAG with affiliations
                                    will do their best to only be
                                    coaches 
                                  

                                  
                                  I also understand the comment
                                    made about having to justify some
                                    kind of involvement if one is
                                    gaining support from a community, or
                                    an academic entity to spend the time
                                    necessary, but I think that we all
                                    need to realize and ensure support
                                    that MAG members are appointed by
                                    the UN SecGen and need to convince
                                    themselves, and their employer,
                                    whomever that is -- whether
                                    business, government, NGO/CS, or
                                    university -- that there is a need
                                    to be as independent as possible.
                                  

                                  
                                  I still think that MAG's purpose
                                    is to coach, and help outreach to
                                    new speakers for both main sessions
                                    and workshops. 
                                  

                                  
                                  However, I am realistic that if
                                    we set an objective of no more than
                                    one main session as a speaker, or co
                                    moderator, this may be the most
                                    realistic, while sticking to the no
                                    workshops submitted by a MAG
                                    member.  I know that our job is
                                    really to encourage the development
                                    of workshops through reaching out to
                                    networks, but we can all commit to
                                    not rating workshops that we have
                                    direct relationships with, as a
                                    standard practice, and commit to the
                                    no more than one main session.
                                  

                                  
                                  Look, this is more work, frankly,
                                    than doing it ourselves. 
                                  

                                  
                                  I realize that identifying and
                                    coaching is more work than being the
                                    experts we are, but we are on the
                                    MAG for only a short cycle, and the
                                    more we coach, and enrich
                                    participation, the more the IGF
                                    grows and is sustainable.
                                  

                                  
                                  So, here's to the no more than 3
                                    speaking roles on workshops and no
                                    more than 1 main session per MAG
                                    member. Even at that and here is the
                                    math:
                                  

                                  
                                  50 MAG members X 3 is 150
                                    workshops with MAG speakers
                                  50 MAG members X 1 for main
                                    sessions could be 50 of the slots in
                                    whatever the number of the main
                                    sessions turns out to be: 6 or 8:
                                    that would mean that if main
                                    sessions have 6-10 speakers, X 6 so
                                    60 at max, up to 50 speakers from
                                    MAG might be proposed. I know that
                                    we are not headed there, but we
                                    really should think about perhaps no
                                    more than 3-4 MAG members per main
                                    session, and showing cause why the
                                    MAG member is the best speaker,along
                                    the lines of the 'exception'.
                                  

                                  
                                  I have proposed a SDG
                                    consultation main session and am
                                    following up on that, but consistent
                                    with the WSIS+10 session, which I
                                    was privileged to co organize with
                                    Brazil, Lea, and others, we invited
                                    different moderators and took the
                                    role of rapporteurs. 
                                  

                                  
                                  I am not suggesting that a MAG
                                    member is never the best moderator,
                                    or co facilitator, but I do urge
                                    that we as MAG members embrace the
                                    no more than 3 workshops [unless
                                    there is such fallout of a moderator
                                    or speaker at least minute that a
                                    MAG member is needed to support a
                                    workshop as an exception -- that
                                    does happen and if we are not 'full
                                    up' on 3 then we can be the angel
                                    that supports a workshop when travel
                                    or other situations lead to gaps
                                    that might lead to cancellation of a
                                    workshop.
                                  

                                  
                                  As I look ahead to the MAG after
                                    I leave it and that day will come
                                    soon, I am hoping that it is
                                    enriched by at least another 25 per
                                    year active participants per
                                    stakeholder group that I can
                                    cheerfully say: the MAG enhanced
                                    diversity in gender, geo
                                    representation, and issue diversity,
                                    so that we have at least 100 more
                                    experts each year who return to
                                    build on the IGF, both in our IGF
                                    annually, and also feed back into
                                    their national or sub regional or
                                    regional IGF.
                                  

                                  
                                  

                                    

                                    
                                      From: virat.bhatia at intl.att.com

                                      To: barrister at chambers.gen.nz;
                                      Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org

                                      Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 21:20:29
                                      +0530

                                      Subject: Re: [IGFmaglist]
                                      Participation at IGF by MAG
                                      members
                                      
                                        

                                          

                                          Dear Members of the MAG,

                                             
                                            
                                            Sent this out 2 hours ago,
                                            but some didn’t get it. My
                                            apologies if it is resend
                                            for anyone. 

                                             
                                            
                                            Regards,

                                            Virat Bhatia

                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                            
                                              From:
                                                Bhatia, Virat 

                                                Sent: Friday, May
                                                20, 2016 7:08 PM

                                                To: 'Peter
                                                Dengate Thrush' <barrister at chambers.gen.nz>;
                                                'MAG-public' <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>

                                                Subject: RE:
                                                [IGFmaglist]
                                                Participation at IGF by
                                                MAG members

                                              
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                            Dear
                                              Peter, 
                                            Many
                                              thanks for your email.  
                                            This
                                              is an important issue and
                                              we must try and close it
                                              at the earliest and with
                                              the best possible way
                                              forward. 
                                            Here
                                              is a brief description of
                                              the evolutionary
                                              perspective, and past
                                              discussions, followed by
                                              my submission on the
                                              issue.   
                                            1.     
                                                  Discussion
                                                started in 2014
                                             
                                            (i)      Before
                                              2014 IGF in Istanbul, some
                                              MAG members (not all)
                                              served as speakers and/or
                                              moderators in main
                                              sessions and workshops.
                                              There was no rule limiting
                                              or preventing such
                                              participation. In 2014,
                                              during my first year in
                                              the MAG, the MAG imposed a
                                              self-restraint, ahead of
                                              Istanbul IGF for the first
                                              time.  Some of the reasons
                                              are already well
                                              documented in your mail. 
                                              Pros and cons were argued
                                              (as you have) and on the
                                              balance, the rule of “3+1”
                                              was agreed upon (maximum
                                              of 3 workshops and 1 main
                                              session), where a MAG
                                              member could serve either
                                              as a speaker and/or as a
                                              moderator.
                                             
                                            
                                            (ii)    In
                                              part, the complete ban
                                              could not be  imposed in
                                              2014, because, by the time
                                              the discussion on limiting
                                              MAG members participation
                                              as speakers and / or
                                              moderators gained ground,
                                              several MAG members had
                                              already committed to serve
                                              as speakers on approved
                                              workshops for IGF 2014. 
                                              Since MAG members were
                                              already committed, they
                                              could not withdraw at the
                                              last minute, leaving
                                              workshop organizers in a
                                              lurch. 
                                             
                                            
                                            2.     
                                                  In
                                                2015
                                             
                                            In
                                              2015 the rule continued to
                                              remain, but it was
                                              generally understood that
                                              MAG members could serve as
                                              speakers and/or moderators
                                              at main sessions and
                                              workshops within the rule
                                              of 3+1, but only as an
                                              exception. (E.g. no other
                                              candidate available to
                                              serve as moderator /
                                              speaker or last minute
                                              cancellation, etc.) At
                                              least that is how I
                                              understood the position
                                              and acted upon it. 
                                              Admittedly the rule may
                                              not have been followed in
                                              its letter and spirit in
                                              2015.  However my
                                              impression is, that for
                                              the most part there was
                                              tremendous self-restraint
                                              shown by MAG members in
                                              2015. 
                                            Several
                                              of us in the MAG who have
                                              been regular speakers and
                                              moderators, both for main
                                              sessions and workshops,
                                              have politely refused
                                              speaking opportunities,
                                              offered by workshop
                                              proposers and main session
                                              organizers in 2014 and 15.
                                            
                                            3.     
                                                  Now
                                                for 2016 ( my
                                                submission)
                                             
                                            
                                            For
                                              2016, I would recommend
                                              that we go with option 3
                                              that you have suggested: 
                                            “A
                                                complete limit (ban) on
                                                MAG member involvement
                                                (probably with a let-out
                                                clause that would allow
                                                a MAG member to apply
                                                for dispensation in
                                                certain circumstance).”
                                            
                                            If
                                              the MAG agrees, this can
                                              be implemented for both
                                              main sessions and
                                              workshops in 2016.  
                                            Main
                                                sessions:  Main
                                              session written proposals
                                              have not been finalized
                                              (perhaps not even written
                                              yet), so no MAG member
                                              stands committed as a
                                              speaker and / or
                                              moderator. Sufficient time
                                              for co-facilitators to
                                              find good alternatives
                                              between now and November
                                              2016. 
                                            Workshops: 
                                              Since Workshop proposal
                                              evaluations have not begun
                                              yet, MAG members (if they
                                              agree) can recuse
                                              themselves, if a workshop
                                              proposer reaches out to
                                              them for serving as a
                                              moderator or speaker. 
                                            However,
                                              as option 3 (above)
                                              implies,  if there are
                                              unavoidable circumstances,
                                              where the MAG member in
                                              his wisdom decides, and
                                              the MAG agrees that an
                                              exception needs to be
                                              made, for either a main
                                              session or workshop, then
                                              the same can be allowed.
                                            The
                                              above restraint (ban) is only
                                              for serving MAG members
                                              (during their tenure) as
                                              speakers and / or
                                              moderators at main
                                              sessions and workshops.   
                                              Once they rotate off the
                                              list, they can and must
                                              accept moderator /speaker
                                              roles for both main
                                              sessions and workshops. 
                                              In fact in some cases,
                                              they may be the best
                                              suited candidates
                                            The
                                              restraint does not in any
                                              stop the MAG members from
                                              being co-facilitators or
                                              organizers of main
                                              sessions.  In fact quite
                                              the contrary.  The role of
                                              co-facilitators is
                                              completely different from
                                              that of moderators, as
                                              explained in the Working
                                              Group recommendations.  
                                             
                                            
                                            Again,
                                              opting for restraint is my
                                              personal preference, and
                                              submitted for MAG’s
                                              consideration. Invite MAG
                                              members to weigh in. 
                                            Regards,
                                            Virat
                                              Bhatia
                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                            -----Original Message-----

                                            From: Igfmaglist [mailto:igfmaglist-bounces at intgovforum.org]
                                            On Behalf Of Peter Dengate
                                            Thrush

                                            Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016
                                            6:08 AM

                                            To: MAG-public <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>

                                            Subject: [IGFmaglist]
                                            Participation at IGF by MAG
                                            members

                                             
                                            
                                            Fellow MAG members,

                                            With apologies for the
                                            delay, I’d like to return to
                                            a topic raised in our call
                                            last month - the public
                                            participation in events at
                                            IGF meetings by MAG members.

                                             
                                            
                                            It appears there was a time
                                            when MAG members played an
                                            active part in not only
                                            proposing sessions of
                                            various sorts at IGF
                                            meetings, but
                                            chairing/moderating,
                                            speaking ( on panels and
                                            other formats) and generally
                                            taking a very public role at
                                            IGF meetings.

                                             
                                            
                                            Over time, it has seemed
                                            more appropriate for MAG
                                            members to play a lesser
                                            public role. The possibility
                                            of a conflict of interest in
                                            proposing sessions which MAG
                                            members are involved in,
                                            even if they personally
                                            refrain from evaluating
                                            their own proposals, is one
                                            obvious reason for a reduced
                                            role.

                                             
                                            
                                            When I joined the MAG last
                                            year, there were various
                                            comments made to the effect
                                            that MAG members should not
                                            assume public roles, but
                                            should encourage, coach and
                                            facilitate new talent to 
                                            emerge.

                                             
                                            
                                            Last year, it appeared to me
                                            (entirely subjectively) that
                                            MAG members generally took a
                                            lower profile, but that was
                                            not uniform. Some MAG
                                            members appeared in a
                                            variety of public roles.

                                             
                                            
                                            It seems to me we should
                                            have a discussion then come
                                            to a quick conclusion about
                                            the parameters of the public
                                            performance by MAG members.

                                             
                                            
                                            The points on both sides of
                                            the issue are obvious: on
                                            the one hand MAG members are
                                            (typically) leaders in their
                                            communities, and have a good
                                            grasp of a wide range of
                                            topics, and serve well as
                                            speakers on topics they are
                                            familiar with, if not
                                            experts upon. One of the
                                            reasons for joining the MAG
                                            is to increase one’s
                                            involvement in these issues.
                                            For some if not many MAG
                                            members, active
                                            participation ( being in the
                                            published programme) is a
                                            pre-requisite for getting
                                            funding from employers or
                                            other parties. In other
                                            cases, it is the groups
                                            putting the sessions
                                            together that seek the
                                            participation of MAG members
                                            because of their high
                                            profile and expertise.

                                             
                                            
                                            On the other hand, MAG
                                            members are leaders in their
                                            communities, and don’t need
                                            to increase their profiles.
                                            They could be using their
                                            positions to bring on new
                                            talent.The conflict of
                                            interest point extends
                                            across all formats - many
                                            worthwhile and interesting
                                            sessions are not approved
                                            for inclusion, and it
                                            weakens the IGF to have any
                                            appearance of favouritism.
                                            MAG members should do other
                                            things to enhance the
                                            profile of the IGF.

                                             
                                            
                                            Doubtless there are more
                                            points, with many nuances
                                            around each one.

                                             
                                            
                                            I suggest, for the purposes
                                            of the discussion that I now
                                            invite, that we consider
                                            three broad options;

                                             
                                            
                                            (1) No Limits on MAG member
                                            involvement:

                                            (2) Some limit (TBD after
                                            debate, but probably along
                                            the lines of the “Rule of 3”
                                            some have cited ( as if it
                                            were a rule);

                                            (3) A complete limit (ban)
                                            on MAG member involvement (
                                            probably with a let-out
                                            clause that would allow a
                                            MAG member to apply for
                                            dispensation in certain
                                            circumstance).

                                             
                                            
                                            I look forward to some
                                            discussion on this, and then
                                            a move to closure.

                                            I note that the Main
                                            Sessions draft produced by
                                            that WG takes the position
                                            that all Main Sessions need
                                            to be facilitated by MAG
                                            members ( a continuation of
                                            the same position taken in
                                            the 2015 paper.) I’d be
                                            interested in learning of
                                            the reasoning behind that.

                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                            Thanks in advance for your
                                            thoughts on this.

                                             
                                            
                                            Regards

                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                            Peter

                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
                                             
                                            
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