[IGFmaglist] Cyber-Trust-Privacy Main Session Update

Ben Wallis (CELA) bewallis at microsoft.com
Tue Sep 25 22:19:20 EDT 2018

Ahead of the MAG meeting tomorrow, I am providing a written update regarding the Main Session on Cybersecurity, Trust and Privacy

- facilitators and list membership
Ben Wallis and Sala Tamanikaiwaimaro
There is definitely room for another co-facilitator, particularly as Ben will have limited ability to co-facilitate after 31 October due to participation at ITU Plenipotentiary Conference. 
Last time I checked, we had 16 members of the mailing list. It's not too late to join and contribute to discussion about this Main Session. You can sign up here - https://intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/cybersecurity-trust-privacy_intgovforum.org   

- draft proposals 
Unfortunately, this has not yet developed far. 
I sent out initial suggestions (see below) for how to frame the discussion the week before last, but there have not been any comments yet. 
I plan to work with my co-facilitator to send out more concrete ideas to help move discussion by the end of this week.
- initial thoughts 
My first observation is that cybersecurity, privacy and trust are all large and complex issues in their own right. I think it would be jarring to try and have three separate discussions, and in any case the shortening from 180 to 80 minutes makes that completely impractical.

One option would obviously be to just focus on one of the three issues, but that risks alienating those who want to see Main Session discussion of the other two issues. So, I think it's important to find a way to cover all three topics. However, I think we should try and do that in a coherent framework that encompasses elements of all three topics in a single conversation.

For cybersecurity, there are obviously many technical issues, steps that can be taken to tackle the problem, and issues of national security. And for privacy there are the legal arguments about the GDPR and other national and regional steps to strengthen data protection, which also plays into trust. I don't think these aspects help drive towards a single coherent discussion.

Instead, I would like to suggest we consider all three issues from an economic perspective. Cybersecurity attacks cause great economic damage, whether that be through theft of data or money from individuals or businesses and banks, or the costs of both mitigating against and cleaning up after cyberattacks (costs which could be particularly prohibitive for developing countries).

So I think it would be interesting to discuss these issues from the perspective of economics and prosperity, and why addressing them is important for enabling sustainable economic development. Once we drill down from there, we might find a few particular issues that tie in well, such as how to establish data protection that instils trust whilst also enabling the cross-border data flows which are contributing to economic development.

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Subject: [IGFmaglist] Draft Agenda & Webex details: MAG Virtual Meeting XIII - Wednesday, September 26th, 2018 20:00 UTC

Dear MAG members,  

please see below for the draft agenda for our next Virtual MAG meeting.   


 Full updates needed on all Thematic (Main) Session Preparations (5 mins. each): these should include and if possible be submitted in writing ahead of the meeting:
	- agreed facilitators
	- draft proposals (title and proposed focus/policy questions)
	- requests (if any) of other MAG members

Updates also requested for all activities with direct roles in IGF 2018 (BPFs, CENB, DCs, NRIs)


The Webex invitation is below.  Pre-registration not required.

MAG Virtual Meeting XIII
Wednesday 26 September 2018, 20:00 UTC - (2 hours reserved)

Draft Agenda

1. Opening/Adoption of Agenda (5 min)

2. Misc. Updates by the Secretariat/Chair (5 mins)

3. Update on Host Country preparations -  (15 min)

4. Review Thematic (Main) session process and preparations (40 mins), incl. Mergers
5. NRI Updates (10 mins)

6. Intersessional Updates: BPFs, DCs, CENB (20 mins)

7. MAG WG Updates  (20 mins) - IF TIME PERMITS

8. AOB (5 mins)




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