[IGFmaglist] IGF 2020 Call For Validation of Thematic Tracks and Action Items

Wed Jan 22 04:49:56 EST 2020

I join to support of this approach.

Best,
Lianna

On 1/22/2020 12:06 PM, Rudolf.Gridl at bmwi.bund.de wrote:
>
> I support Susan‘s and Sylvia‘s interventions. We should limit 
> ourselves to the three tracks and add environmental sustainability and 
> digital economy as cross-cutting themes for the program.
>
> Best,
>
> Rudolf
>
> *Von:*SChalmers at ntia.gov [mailto:SChalmers at ntia.gov]
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 21. Januar 2020 20:28
> *An:* Sylvia Cadena; MAG-public
> *Betreff:* Re: [IGFmaglist] IGF 2020 Call For Validation of Thematic 
> Tracks and Action Items
>
> I support Sylvia’s points.
>
> For what it is worth, I support Option 1, or adding “environmental 
> sustainability” and “digital economy” as suggested tags or 
> cross-cutting themes for the program instead of creating a new track.  
> An “emerging and evolving issue” fourth category will inevitably be 
> viewed and responded to by workshop proposers as a catch-all or 
> miscellaneous category, despite any of our clarifying efforts to the 
> contrary.  We would be stepping back from the progress made last year 
> in preparing a more focused, more approachable IGF agenda. But, let’s 
> see how the community responds…
>
> As Sylvia points out, we’d have to draft a narrative for the 
> category.  For evaluation purposes, proposals must align with the 
> narrative, which means that MAG members will spend precious time 
> during the June meeting debating which issues (proposals) are 
> “evolving and emerging” and which are not. We would also find 
> ourselves trying to distinguish between “evolving and emerging” and 
> “data,” “inclusion,” and “trust” because folks will ask whether a 
> given proposal would better fit in a different category.
>
> In any event, all issues “evolve,” but only new issues “emerge.”
>
> So, with all due respect to my colleague and collaborator Paul R., I 
> would not support his suggested edits for a few reasons, but most 
> basically because they add more words and categories, which magnifies 
> the opportunity for confusion for an audience that has repeatedly 
> expressed a desire for a more concise and comprehensible IGF agenda.
>
> /Note bene:/  the MAG has been asked for feedback by COB 0800 CET on 
> 1/22, yet the text has already been modified by the Secretariat on the 
> website 
> <hXXps://wwwXX.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2020-call-for-validation-of-thematic-tracks>.  
> This shouldn’t be the case.  The decision on the text should be taken 
> following the review of all MAG member feedback, once the notified 
> deadline to provide input has run.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Susan
>
> Susan Elizabeth Chalmers
>
> Internet Policy Specialist
>
> Office of International Affairs
>
> National Telecommunications and Information Administration
>
> U.S. Department of Commerce
>
> schalmers at ntia.gov
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> *From:*Sylvia Cadena <sylvia at apnic.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 21, 2020 11:17 AM
> *To:* MAG-public <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [IGFmaglist] IGF 2020 Call For Validation of Thematic 
> Tracks and Action Items
>
> Dear MAG colleagues,
>
> Although I was not there neither in person or online to express my 
> dissent during the MAG meeting, and it may be too late, I am sorry, 
> but I don’t agree.
>
> Although there is support for the changes proposed by Paul, I think 
> the MAG should make a stronger effort to be clear on what a track 
> actually covers. A track with such a wide title “evolving and emerging 
> issues” or “emerging issues” can end up as a basket for everything 
> that doesn’t fit in the other 3 and we will lose all the effort done 
> last year to narrow the focus.
>
> In my opinion, if a 4^th track is to be added, the MAG should be a lot 
> clearer about what the focus should be among the other topics 
> identify. It is within the MAG’s mandate to make the decision to focus 
> on one of those topics (environmental ‎sustainability/climate change 
> and digital economy). Maybe the consultation process can ask the 
> community which one to prioritize and to clarify that it is impossible 
> to please everyone and discuss everything.
>
> Please consider that for every decision that the MAG makes, there are 
> a lot of implications on the evaluation of session proposals, design 
> of reports and structure of the intro&concluding sessions. We will 
> have to agree on a narrative for the “evolving and emerging issues”, 
> and design the intro & concluding session for it, that fits the scope 
> of the sessions approved under such track. That was my experience 
> helping with the SSS&R track last year, as the concepts covered where 
> extremely wide and in some cases the definitions didn’t even fit (like 
> the workshop around access to medicines, that referred to the 
> resilience definition, which didn’t have anything to do with Internet 
> resilience, but with resilience in a more generic definition). Same 
> goes for the definition of the subthemes under each one of the tracks. 
> Clear definitions (as everyone that presented a session under the 
> SSS&R track) are a key element to be able to advance on a discussion 
> and wrap it up. Most of the discussions goes in circles just because 
> speakers/contributors have very different definitions to begin with.
>
> Even in 2018, when we had 8 tracks, the MAG made a very conscious 
> effort to have them clearly defined.
>
> Please reconsider.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sylvia
>
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> *From: *June Parris <parrisjune51 at gmail.com 
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> *Date: *Tuesday, 21 January 2020 at 5:39 am
> *To: *Chengetai Masango <chengetai.masango at un.org 
> <mailto:chengetai.masango at un.org>>, MAG-public 
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> *Subject: *Re: [IGFmaglist] IGF 2020 Call For Validation of Thematic 
> Tracks and Action Items
>
> Dear All,
>
> I agree to Paul and Karim and will give support.
>
> Regards
>
> June Parris
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> *From:*Chengetai Masango <chengetai.masango at un.org 
> <mailto:chengetai.masango at un.org>>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 20, 2020 12:24
> *To:* MAG-public
> *Subject:* [IGFmaglist] IGF 2020 Call For Validation of Thematic 
> Tracks and Action Items
>
> Dear All,
>
> As agreed at the end of the MAG meeting
>
> Please find attached a word document containing the meeting action items
>
> and
>
> The link to the draft “IGF 2020 Call for Validation of Thematic Tracks”
>
> hXXps://wwwXX.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2020-call-for-validation-of-issues 
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> If you have any comments on the form  please let us know by O.O.B 22 
> Jan Geneva time. (08:00am)
>
> Best regards
>
> Chengetai
>
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