[Wg-mwp] Wg-mwp Digest, Vol 5, Issue 11

Delfi Ramirez 2qt at segonquart.net
Tue Dec 12 22:37:33 EST 2017


Dear colleagues:

i missed the poll, due to an overwhelmed personal agenda these week,  
and  I would like to, but I cannot find the link to read the comments - 
- to be of help if necessary and needed --- before the sending to the Wg

Is there any chance to see, please the document text'?

thanks in advance.

Delfi

On 13/12/2017 02:17, wg-mwp-request at intgovforum.org wrote:
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>     1. Re: Proposed Poll for IGF 2017 (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
>     2. Re: Proposed Poll for IGF 2017 (Mary Uduma)
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> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:37:35 -0300
> From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> To: "Lynn St.Amour" <st.amour at bluewin.ch>
> Cc: wg-mwp <wg-mwp at intgovforum.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wg-mwp] Proposed Poll for IGF 2017
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> Hi
>
> My support for the good :)
> And moving this forward to the MAG.
>
> Thanks
>
> Em 12 de dez de 2017 1:58 PM, "Lynn St.Amour" <st.amour at bluewin.ch>
> escreveu:
>
>> Dear WG members,
>>
>> per our call yesterday, I have done my (non-expert) best to incorporate
>> the comments from the call and the mail list in the attached document.
>> Would appreciate any comments by return email.  IN parallel, I am sending
>> the same document to the EBU volunteers and the secretariat in order to
>> progress their reviews in parallel.
>>
>> Given the discussion on the call yesterday and the number of strong
>> statements that this was important to launch at the IGF - with of course
>> much broader outreach as well, I would like to send this to the MAG
>> Wednesday AM for their review and hopefully support.   If there are any
>> views WG members would like incorporated in that request to the MAG, please
>> let me know ASAP.  I will do my best to reflect accurately our discussion
>> (including points of discomfort with timing or any other points that are
>> raised).
>>
>>  From my perspective as a longstanding IGF participant (and NOT as Chair),
>> I think this poll could be very helpful, and I believe it is a good start.
>> We can always improve - but let?s not make perfection the enemy of the
>> good.   Concrete suggestions much appreciated.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lynn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 6:38 AM, Wout de Natris <denatrisconsult at hotmail.nl>
>> wrote:
>>> Lynn, all,
>>>
>>> Thank you again for an excellent discussion yesterday.
>>>
>>> For the record I would like to reiterate that in my opinion we only get
>> one chance at reaching out to people in the heat of the moment: that is
>> next week. All other options are more than suboptimal, as participation in
>> all intersessional work proves it to be. What we are working on to change.
>>> Having said that, yes, it is of course important to reach those who are
>> not present at the IGF (and do not participate remotely) and invite them to
>> join in and share their views.
>>> So, if the EBU offers this WG the opportunity to make this happen, let's
>> embrace it and make it possible for the MAG to decide asap, if it needs to
>> do so. We could also see this as our poll, in search of input for our final
>> recommendations to the new MAG.
>>> Where the questions are concerned, I have already given one suggestion
>> yesterday. A second one would be: Do you feel that the main issues of your
>> stakeholder group are fully discussed at the IGF? y/n or something like it.
>> In search of improvement suggestions.
>>> On the last two questions on gender/age, perhaps country also. Will we
>> use these answers in any way and are they relevant to the questionnaire?
>> Just asking.
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Wout
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>> De Natris Consult
>>> Kamerlingh Onnesstraat 43
>>          Tel: +31 648388813
>>> 2014 EK Haarlem
>>                  Skype: wout.de.natris
>>> denatrisconsult at hotmail.nl
>>>
>>> http://www.denatrisconsult.nl
>>>
>>> Blog http://woutdenatris.wordpress.com
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Wg-mwp <wg-mwp-bounces at intgovforum.org> on behalf of Lynn
>> St.Amour <st.amour at bluewin.ch>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 4:28 PM
>>> To: wg-mwp
>>> Subject: [Wg-mwp] Proposed Poll for IGF 2017
>>>
>>> Dear WG members,
>>>
>>> please find below the latest draft of the poll proposed by one of our WG
>> members - Giacomo Mazzone.   It is being tabled for discussion on our call
>> later today.
>>> Giacomo and his expert colleagues in the European Broadcasting Union
>> (EBU) have put this together and they will support the analysis once the
>> poll is complete.   I would like to thank Giacomo and his colleagues for
>> their expert support.   The question before this WG is whether or not this
>> is ready to go to the MAG for their review and to seek support for
>> launching at this IGF.
>>> This is a stretch goal as obviously time is tight, though this was
>> discussed several months ago on one of our very first calls.
>>> As the poll is really quite straight-forward, I am hoping we can all
>> take a few minutes to review it carefully and offer any suggestions for
>> improvement.
>>> Thanks in advance for all your efforts.
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 01:15:47 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Mary Uduma <mnuduma at yahoo.com>
> To: "Lynn St.Amour" <st.amour at bluewin.ch>,  Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> 	<raquino at gmail.com>
> Cc: wg-mwp <wg-mwp at intgovforum.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wg-mwp] Proposed Poll for IGF 2017
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>   Colleagues,I am sorry for missing the call.It held almost at? the same timing with NRIs call.
> I wish to support the draft survey.
> Mary Uduma
>      On Tuesday, December 12, 2017, 10:37:47 PM GMT+1, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>   Hi
> My support for the good :)And moving this forward to the MAG.?
> Thanks?
> Em 12 de dez de 2017 1:58 PM, "Lynn St.Amour" <st.amour at bluewin.ch> escreveu:
>
> Dear WG members,
>
> per our call yesterday, I have done my (non-expert) best to incorporate the comments from the call and the mail list in the attached document.? Would appreciate any comments by return email.? IN parallel, I am sending the same document to the EBU volunteers and the secretariat in order to progress their reviews in parallel.
>
> Given the discussion on the call yesterday and the number of strong statements that this was important to launch at the IGF - with of course much broader outreach as well, I would like to send this to the MAG Wednesday AM for their review and hopefully support.? ?If there are any views WG members would like incorporated in that request to the MAG, please let me know ASAP.? I will do my best to reflect accurately our discussion (including points of discomfort with timing or any other points that are raised).
>
> >From my perspective as a longstanding IGF participant (and NOT as Chair), I think this poll could be very helpful, and I believe it is a good start.? We can always improve - but let?s not make perfection the enemy of the good.? ?Concrete suggestions much appreciated.
>
> Best,
> Lynn
>
>
>
>
>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 6:38 AM, Wout de Natris <denatrisconsult at hotmail.nl> wrote:
>>
>> Lynn, all,
>>
>> Thank you again for an excellent discussion yesterday.
>>
>> For the record I would like to reiterate that in my opinion we only get one chance at reaching out to people in the heat of the moment: that is next week. All other options are more than suboptimal, as participation in all intersessional work proves it to be. What we are working on to change.
>>
>> Having said that, yes, it is of course important to reach those who are not present at the IGF (and do not participate remotely) and invite them to join in and share their views.
>>
>> So, if the EBU offers this WG the opportunity to make this happen, let's embrace it and make it possible for the MAG to decide asap, if it needs to do so. We could also see this as our poll, in search of input for our final recommendations to the new MAG.
>>
>> Where the questions are concerned, I have already given one suggestion yesterday. A second one would be: Do you feel that the main issues of your stakeholder group are fully discussed at the IGF? y/n or something like it. In search of improvement suggestions.
>>
>> On the last two questions on gender/age, perhaps country also. Will we use these answers in any way and are they relevant to the questionnaire? Just asking.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Wout
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> De Natris Consult
>> Kamerlingh Onnesstraat 43? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Tel: +31 648388813
>> 2014 EK Haarlem? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Skype: wout.de.natris
>>
>> denatrisconsult at hotmail.nl
>>
>> http://www.denatrisconsult.nl
>>
>> Blog http://woutdenatris.wordpress. com
>>
>>
>> From: Wg-mwp <wg-mwp-bounces at intgovforum. org> on behalf of Lynn St.Amour <st.amour at bluewin.ch>
>> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 4:28 PM
>> To: wg-mwp
>> Subject: [Wg-mwp] Proposed Poll for IGF 2017
>>
>> Dear WG members,
>>
>> please find below the latest draft of the poll proposed by one of our WG members - Giacomo Mazzone.? ?It is being tabled for discussion on our call later today.
>>
>> Giacomo and his expert colleagues in the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) have put this together and they will support the analysis once the poll is complete.? ?I would like to thank Giacomo and his colleagues for their expert support.? ?The question before this WG is whether or not this is ready to go to the MAG for their review and to seek support for launching at this IGF.
>>
>> This is a stretch goal as obviously time is tight, though this was discussed several months ago on one of our very first calls.
>>
>> As the poll is really quite straight-forward, I am hoping we can all take a few minutes to review it carefully and offer any suggestions for improvement.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for all your efforts.
>>
>> Lynn
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>>
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