[DC] Draft submission to IGF MAG

Mon Feb 15 04:25:16 EST 2016

Thanks Markus for the clarification !

Kind regards,

Marie-laure

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De: Markus Kummer <kummer.markus at gmail.com<mailto:kummer.markus at gmail.com>>
Fecha: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 10:12:30 +0100
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Asunto: Re: [DC] Draft submission to IGF MAG

Dear all,

We seem to create some unnecessary misunderstandings. The paper Jeremy produced is the result of the stocktaking process we started after the Brazil meeting. We held a number of calls, all documented on the CD list, and agreed to produce a paper as an input into the call for contributions issued by the IGF Secetariat. We also agreed to continue working on the draft TOR for the coordination group with the aim to conclude this process well in advance of the April MAG meeting/open consultations.

The paper Marianne mentioned provided a useful input into our collective process. However, in many ways it has been overtaken by events, as we started discussing how to set up the coordination group and we also discussed what worked well and what worked less well at the DC session last November. Jeremy’s paper sums up this discussion. We have a few more days for DCs to sign up to this paper — either as DC or, if there is not sufficient time for internal consultation, in their individual capacity.

I would therefore suggest focusing on Jeremy’s paper and not confusing matters by submitting two papers with slightly conflicting messages. Furthermore, I understand that the other paper was produced quickly, with fresh impressions immediately after the meeting. However, in terms of process it does not live up to the standards of transparency and openness we hope to adhere to collectively. It was never submitted for comments on the DC list and it should all be noted that two DCs (and not just one) did not sign up to it.

Best regards
Markus

On 15 Feb 2016, at 09:31, Marianne Franklin <m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk<mailto:m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>> wrote:

Dear all

Thanks Marie-Laure as I too have been unclear. Just to clarify and so forgo any further misunderstandings.

The PDF I attached was a resending of a Stocktaking statement that all DCs prepared and tabled at the first meeting after the IGF in Brazil. It is dated 25 November and the minutes show that it has been tabled.

The Google.doc text is one that Jeremy drafted, a second document in fact and from the point of view of the two DC Main Session facilitators.

The November DC Stocktaking Statement has already been tabled, signed by all DCs pending word back from Andrea. So then it s ready to forward to the MAG if it has not been already.

Best
MF

On 15/02/2016 07:15, Marie-Laure Lemineur wrote:
Dear all,

Can someone please clarify why  the text of the PDF attached by Marianne varies  from the google.doc version? I take it that the latest version is the google.doc version. Is this correct?

Also, what happened to the paragraph about the DC Coordination group  mentioned in the PDF version but not in the Google.doc draft? Is there an agreement to avoid mentioning this issue  at this stage or  is  it due to an oversight?

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Marie-laure

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De: Marianne Franklin <<mailto:m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk<mailto:m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>>
Fecha: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 13:56:35 +0100
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Dear all

Thank you Jeremy for the drafting this second submission to the MAG stocktaking from the DC intersessional.

There are some important points being made here that reiterate but also supplement those already made by the November DC Stocktaking Report.

In order not to reinvent the wheel and to provide space in this second statement to go into more detail about the way future DC main sessions can be organized, or any output tool incorporated, I would like to make the following suggestions

1) The current DC Stocktaking Document signed by all DCs pending a response from one remaining, is sent to the MAG. It is addressed to the MAG and represents all DCs to date. It was tabled at our intersessional meetings so can be sent forward. I am attaching the PDF again for good measure.

2) Alongside the November DC statement, that this second draft statement be readied as one being written on behalf of the DC Main Session Facilitators (Jeremy and Avri) with eventual endorsement from any DC or individual in the short time remaining.

Why? This second statement has a clear provenance, and for that reason can more clearly address the specifics of
a) Main session organization between one or two days
b) How any rating tool is designed and executed for future DC Main sessions
c) Underscore points already made about suitable DC representation and contributions to IGF meetings in the future, with Mexico as the next one on the agenda.

Two statements are better then one because they represent two distinct constituencies engaged in the preparation and outcomes of the first DC Main Session last year.

Now, if I can turn to my own observations on this second statement.

i) The working text is in Google docs so this precludes those of us who prefer not to register with Google for this sort of work. I cannot speak for all, but I for one do not use Google docs anymore.

ii) There is mention of one brand of survey/rating tool. This assumes that this brand is suitable for all future uses. I would beg to differ in that it is one related to a particular sort of format. As there are serious issues with how this particular brand was designed and deployed in Brazil I would suggest that a more generic term is used so that future applications of any sort of numerical rating tool, if deemed useful, can be up to the usual methodological standard of survey-based, or statistical analysis.

And one more, apologies for the long mail but have to catch up;

iii) DCs all have different timescales for consultation and endorsement procedures so if this second statement goes forward, it needs to be clearly signed off to that effect i.e. who is signing on behalf of whom.

best
MF

On 10/02/2016 01:58, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:

With apologies for the delay, and as promised at the last meeting, I am
sharing a short draft submission to the IGF MAG in response to its
current taking stock consultation, which I hope we can discuss at our
phone meeting tomorrow:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14yEXAod58zK-ZqKPSgCC_OIBIntOm3wySWZ1hszH2Lk/edit?usp=sharing

It would be due for submission by the 12th. If anyone cannot (or does
not wish to) access Google Docs, please let me know and I'll email you a
copy.  Looking forward to discussing soon!

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