[DC] Draft submission to IGF MAG
Marianne Franklin
m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk
Mon Feb 15 04:31:13 EST 2016
Dear Markus
The misunderstanding appears to continue. I did not submit a paper in my
own name.
The November Stocktaking Statement was drafted, conferred over, and then
edited and signed by all DC signatories. I simply sent it through on
behalf of all DCs.
The etherpad is open for view if confirmation of this process is needed;
https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/DCs_Stocktaking_Statement
The signed statement was indeed forwarded to the DC meeting, and was
noted as received. My own email archives confirm this as do records of
the DC meetings.
It is not clear at all how the impression has been given that the
November statement was done "quickly, with fresh impressions immediately
after the meeting. However, in terms of process it does not live up to
the standards of transparency and openness we hope to adhere to
collectively.".
A point of order too, if I may. All of us on this DC list are
representing our respective DCs. We cannot speak in the name of others
without full consultation at least with respective steering committees.
The November statement sums up the main points adequately and was with
input from a wider range of participants.
This new statement is useful too. I was not suggesting otherwise.
best
MF
On 15/02/2016 10:12, Markus Kummer wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We seem to create some unnecessary misunderstandings. The paper Jeremy
> produced is the result of the stocktaking process we started after the
> Brazil meeting. We held a number of calls, all documented on the CD
> list, and agreed to produce a paper as an input into the call for
> contributions issued by the IGF Secetariat. We also agreed to continue
> working on the draft TOR for the coordination group with the aim to
> conclude this process well in advance of the April MAG meeting/open
> consultations.
>
> The paper Marianne mentioned provided a useful input into our
> collective process. However, in many ways it has been overtaken by
> events, as we started discussing how to set up the coordination group
> and we also discussed what worked well and what worked less well at
> the DC session last November. Jeremy’s paper sums up this discussion.
> We have a few more days for DCs to sign up to this paper — either as
> DC or, if there is not sufficient time for internal consultation, in
> their individual capacity.
>
> I would therefore suggest focusing on Jeremy’s paper and not confusing
> matters by submitting two papers with slightly conflicting messages.
> Furthermore, I understand that the other paper was produced quickly,
> with fresh impressions immediately after the meeting. However, in
> terms of process it does not live up to the standards of transparency
> and openness we hope to adhere to collectively. It was never submitted
> for comments on the DC list and it should all be noted that two DCs
> (and not just one) did not sign up to it.
>
> Best regards
> Markus
>
>
> On 15 Feb 2016, at 09:31, Marianne Franklin <m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk
> <mailto:m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>> Dear all
>>
>> Thanks Marie-Laure as I too have been unclear. Just to clarify and so
>> forgo any further misunderstandings.
>>
>> The PDF I attached was a resending of a Stocktaking statement that
>> all DCs prepared and tabled at the first meeting after the IGF in
>> Brazil. It is dated 25 November and the minutes show that it has been
>> tabled.
>>
>> The Google.doc text is one that Jeremy drafted, a second document in
>> fact and from the point of view of the two DC Main Session facilitators.
>>
>> The November DC Stocktaking Statement has already been tabled, signed
>> by all DCs pending word back from Andrea. So then it s ready to
>> forward to the MAG if it has not been already.
>>
>> Best
>> MF
>>
>> On 15/02/2016 07:15, Marie-Laure Lemineur wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Can someone please clarify why the text of the PDF attached by
>>> Marianne varies from the google.doc version? I take it that the
>>> latest version is the google.doc version. Is this correct?
>>>
>>> Also, what happened to the paragraph about the DC Coordination group
>>> mentioned in the PDF version but not in the Google.doc draft? Is
>>> there an agreement to avoid mentioning this issue at this stage or
>>> is it due to an oversight?
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Marie-laure
>>>
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>>> De: Marianne Franklin <m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>
>>> Fecha: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 13:56:35 +0100
>>> Para: <dc at intgovforum.org>
>>> Asunto: Re: [DC] Draft submission to IGF MAG
>>>
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>> Thank you Jeremy for the drafting this second submission to the MAG
>>> stocktaking from the DC intersessional.
>>>
>>> There are some important points being made here that reiterate but
>>> also supplement those already made by the November DC Stocktaking
>>> Report.
>>>
>>> In order not to reinvent the wheel and to provide space in this
>>> second statement to go into more detail about the way future DC main
>>> sessions can be organized, or any output tool incorporated, I would
>>> like to make the following suggestions
>>>
>>> 1) The current DC Stocktaking Document signed by all DCs pending a
>>> response from one remaining, is sent to the MAG. It is addressed to
>>> the MAG and represents all DCs to date. It was tabled at our
>>> intersessional meetings so can be sent forward. I am attaching the
>>> PDF again for good measure.
>>>
>>> 2) Alongside the November DC statement, that this second draft
>>> statement be readied as one being written on behalf of the DC Main
>>> Session Facilitators (Jeremy and Avri) with eventual endorsement
>>> from any DC or individual in the short time remaining.
>>>
>>> Why? This second statement has a clear provenance, and for that
>>> reason can more clearly address the specifics of
>>> a) Main session organization between one or two days
>>> b) How any rating tool is designed and executed for future DC Main
>>> sessions
>>> c) Underscore points already made about suitable DC representation
>>> and contributions to IGF meetings in the future, with Mexico as the
>>> next one on the agenda.
>>>
>>> Two statements are better then one because they represent two
>>> distinct constituencies engaged in the preparation and outcomes of
>>> the first DC Main Session last year.
>>>
>>> Now, if I can turn to my own observations on this second statement.
>>>
>>> i) The working text is in Google docs so this precludes those of us
>>> who prefer not to register with Google for this sort of work. I
>>> cannot speak for all, but I for one do not use Google docs anymore.
>>>
>>> ii) There is mention of one brand of survey/rating tool. This
>>> assumes that this brand is suitable for all future uses. I would beg
>>> to differ in that it is one related to a particular sort of format.
>>> As there are serious issues with how this particular brand was
>>> designed and deployed in Brazil I would suggest that a more generic
>>> term is used so that future applications of any sort of numerical
>>> rating tool, if deemed useful, can be up to the usual methodological
>>> standard of survey-based, or statistical analysis.
>>>
>>> And one more, apologies for the long mail but have to catch up;
>>>
>>> iii) DCs all have different timescales for consultation and
>>> endorsement procedures so if this second statement goes forward, it
>>> needs to be clearly signed off to that effect i.e. who is signing on
>>> behalf of whom.
>>>
>>> best
>>> MF
>>>
>>> On 10/02/2016 01:58, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>>>> With apologies for the delay, and as promised at the last meeting, I am
>>>> sharing a short draft submission to the IGF MAG in response to its
>>>> current taking stock consultation, which I hope we can discuss at our
>>>> phone meeting tomorrow:
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14yEXAod58zK-ZqKPSgCC_OIBIntOm3wySWZ1hszH2Lk/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> It would be due for submission by the 12th. If anyone cannot (or does
>>>> not wish to) access Google Docs, please let me know and I'll email you a
>>>> copy. Looking forward to discussing soon!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Marianne Franklin, PhD
>> Professor of Global Media and Politics
>> Convener: Global Media & Transnational Communications Program
>> Goldsmiths (University of London)
>> Department of Media & Communications
>> New Cross, London SE14 6NW
>> Tel: +44 20 7919 7072
>> <m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>
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>> http://www.gold.ac.uk/media-communications/staff/franklin/
>> https://www.gold.ac.uk/pg/ma-global-media-transnational-communications/
>> Chair of the Global Internet Governance Academic Network (GigaNet)
>> Steering Committee/Former Co-Chair Internet Rights & Principles Coalition (UN IGF)
>> www.internetrightsandprinciples.org
>> @netrights
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Marianne Franklin, PhD
Professor of Global Media and Politics
Convener: Global Media & Transnational Communications Program
Goldsmiths (University of London)
Department of Media & Communications
New Cross, London SE14 6NW
Tel: +44 20 7919 7072
<m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>
@GloComm
https://twitter.com/GloComm
http://www.gold.ac.uk/media-communications/staff/franklin/
https://www.gold.ac.uk/pg/ma-global-media-transnational-communications/
Chair of the Global Internet Governance Academic Network (GigaNet)
Steering Committee/Former Co-Chair Internet Rights & Principles Coalition (UN IGF)
www.internetrightsandprinciples.org
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