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>> HIROSHI ESAKI: Good morning, everyone. The concept of smart campuses and their to tension ‑‑ not just technology but also with the prospect of social, economic and environmental responsibility.
Universities play a different role in shaping the minds of the next generation and as we stand at the cross road of this, it is imperative for these institutions to integrate smart and sustainable solutions into their infrastructure., the cases of campuses that are both state of the art and sustainable.
Today we are honored to have with us ‑‑ sorry for that.
We are honored to have with us, Mr. Corey Glickman, task force from the G20 Global Smart Cities Alliance and Mr. MASAMI from Microsoft, Japan and Dr. Hiroshi Esaki from the University of Tokyo.
Okay. This is a session overview. So we also Shedd light on the inspiring new public‑private partnership, led by esteemed institutions and corporations. The initiative is the cooperation between the University of Tokyo and Microsoft alongside other key players this initiative is facilitated by the G20 Global Smart Cities Alliance, and aims to create a global campus network. The essence of the network to harness the potential of IT, networking, data security and governance practices to for sustainable design and emerging technologies. We explore the possibility for the footprints for digital infrastructures, that leverage IT generative AI and the focus is not just on creating new designs, but also on structure to make energy efficient, aligning with global standards and supporting the green economy.
Okay. This is a session overview. And I'm opening and introducing now. After this I try to explain what the global smart alliance is and then we talk to the other speakers. So maybe you may not know the what the G20 Global Smart Cities Alliance is, this activity was born in 2019. So in Japan government, and we tried to put the word ‑‑ kind of the topic into the discussions. In 2020 also Saudi Arabia talked about the smart. 2020, there are so many, you know, smart city projects built all over the world. Technology governance is the issue, for example, the privacy issue, or ‑‑ fragmented business model is also a difficulty. So we tried to ‑‑ our mandate is ‑‑ sorry for that. Our mandate was to present global stakeholders to establish a set of global norms for the responsible use of smart technologies in cities. That is what we wanted to do.
After that ‑‑ actually from 2019 to 2022, we developed five responsible and ethical smart cities and also we developed some model courses. Model policy, there are so many technology governance over there, but we gathered many experts from all over the world and, Corey is one of the task force members, but we discussed what the issue in the city and what, you know, policy should be more like prioritized to adapt to the cities. We discuss a lot, and then we are developing some policies. For example, one is the accessibility policy. So like, you know ‑‑ there are so many accessibility issues over there, so we tried to attach a policy to the cities, and then we tried to increase the gap and privacy policy, we also developed. This is very important policy for many cities. In Japan this policy, was introduced by the cabinet office, and then gradually implementing to some cities, for example, one of the super cities is implementing this policy to their cities.
And also, open data is also very important. But that project was not only developing the policy, but how to implement this kind of policy to the cities.
Then we tried to develop some, you know, city networks here and then ‑‑ now globally we have more than 36 pioneer cities. And also we have some local cities, regional alliances is over there. We have more than 37 cities in Japanese communities and now we are developing Latin America network. So we are developing regional alliances.
And, you know, in 2021, the global alines received the economy award from the expo world Congress. Our project was kind of pop ‑‑ I know many people ‑‑ today I'm very honored to introduce our project.
Lastly, last march we had a joint event with Japan government and these photos are the G7 public‑private event round table for the sustainable urban development ministers meeting. In this event, Dr. Esaki and Corey met in the session. Now we are ‑‑ started to discuss about today's main topic.
So I'd like to introduce what the global alliance did.
Okay. My story is too long. I'd like to pass to Corey. Corey, are you okay?
>> COREY GLICKMAN: Yes, I am. Can you hear me.
>> MODERATOR: I can hear you.
>> COREY GLICKMAN: Excellent. Okay, first of all, thank you very much. I'm Corey Glickman. I just want to spend a few minutes talking a bit about the transformation component. So first part is talk about the overview of the transformation of the built environment for wellness across multiple sectors. That would include the idea of residence, agriculture, administration, industry and commerce, education and research, infrastructure services, and transportation and communication. These components make up the diverse community activities that we all experience in our urban environments.
And what works very well, we know, is putting in smart monitors and controls across all aspects of cities. We would focus on areas of transport, buildings, environment, life events, infrastructure and utilities, and when we do this, we enable communities to transform the urban landscape.
Next slide, please.
So there are four aspects that we synthesize or levers that we use in this idea of transforming the built environment. The first one is decarbonization. So radically reduce the missions for a zero carbon built environment. The second is Democratization. Provide equitable wellness for resilience, for the living environment. The thirds is digitalization, having a digital backbone that smartly connects or buildings, distributed energy resources, our people and our businesses. And the fourth is demonstration. The ability to visualize, our hypothesis and our tests that sets the direction for the next generation of city transformation experts.
These are absolutely vital for us to be able to show what progress can be made and what ideas can be put forward here.
Then lastly, what I'd like to talk about very quickly is the vision. We create this vision for a zero carbon built environment by promoting these equitable wellness in resilience. Probably one of the most important lessons I can share with you, having done this for several years, is we know that the carbonization is actually a user centric, multi stakeholder approach. That will fail when it's enforced by governments that are not supported by Democratized action. That means you can set those standards as a government level and policy level, but if everybody does not contribute and participate, it is going to fail. We see that happen.
The action item that we must leave you with is that you need to demonstrate by leading. You need to have the whole community participate, particularly those that are experts and those that are in their learning institutions and those in the businesses.
When that happens that Democratization, teams with government, teams with public and private entities is when you truly see transformation take place. With that I'd like to thank you for your time and pass it on to the next speaker.
>> MODERATOR: Thank you, Corey for those enlightening insights., the transformations through the lens of one of the giants to discuss Microsoft vision and achieving net zero. I'd like to welcome some Mr. Masami.
>> MASAMI: I'll introduce the Microsoft Japan model very quickly. The reason why I'm here is that Microsoft is a task force member at the G20 Global Smart Cities Alliance project. Also, the ‑‑ another reason is that the Microsoft has just announced the ‑‑ the signed strategy MOU with the University of Tokyo on the green transformation last August. In this agreement Microsoft has supports the rust of Tokyo's effort to achieve net zero emission. We touch on those details later in this session.
So firstly, let us introduce how Microsoft has been tackling the sustainability agenda as a whole company.
Here's a big history on our journey and the future goals.
Since back in 2009, Microsoft established our first carbon emission reduction goal. More than a decade, we have steady build on our commitment to innovation and investment in technologies.
In 2050 we will continue to reduce by electricity use emission since we were founded in 1975.
The common trend.
And this slide here is a simplified view of our future goals, carbon negative, water positive, zero waste by 2030. And we are also building a planetary computer to better monitor model and manage the world ecosystem and protect more land than we use. We are driving these emissions goals internally and helping set best practice and new standards for businesses around the world with software driven innovation.
We see new area of solution emerging, driven by data. Through our work with customer and partners, such as managing data, using advanced analytics, model in the cloud, we are helping organizations in many aspects. As you can see, are building space topic, also circular economic topic and also smart greeting solution. When it comes to data, as an alliance, G20 alliance focused on technology governance, discussion on the ownership and control of data.
At Microsoft, we have fundamental principle. Your data belongs to you. We don't use your data for business. When you or your customer desire to open up your data, we commit to safeguarding your permissions and protecting your data against to tension (?) let's see our example first.
So when it comes to sustainability campus at Microsoft, we run like medium size of city. That is captured across the globe. That vision is to build the operate and connected, accessible, I sustainable work space that creates the best employer experience.
So this is customer #1 for us for smart building solution. Our initial effort to reduce power consumption in our building was focused on the headquarters, Microsoft on campus.
Which spanned 125 buildings serving more than 60,000 people.
Across the campus, there were multiple building systems, Microsoft used ICONICS as a partner and power bi, and dynamics 365 to remotely monitor and manage across the campus. As a result of initial effort, Microsoft achieved 20610 percent reduction in annual energy usage with implementation payback in less than 18 months.
So when we think about the smart campus, employee experience or student experience is very key. Meaning such as productivity, wellness, or access. In order to improve the employee or student experience, we see a campus, we need to perform operations that help optimize how we build and run our real estate.
We have two operational, data and BI and azure, and six operational functions on the right side. So today the smart campus, we'll touch on the data and azure data.
Data and BI, first one. We learn one of the world's largest data store, which we rely on to optimize data operations and save money. There are over 20 resources associates of data inputted. However the real value comes from the ability to combine the data source for insight. As an example, we have cost data for electricity, natural gas, fuel, including transport fuels, waste including recycled and water. The next level up is to apply machine learning to it. Like two use case, #1 is space optimization, batch data press, #2 is energy efficiency, more smart start.
So another one is azure digital twins, another foundational platform. It's to create a digital representation of our real world. It means things, place, people and state. It shows example. So like data, having the digital representation of physical world is only valuable when we use it.
For example, since a system that detects environmental conditions such as temperature and ‑‑ we have a lot of smart campus best practice and cases ‑‑ case studies in the world, we'll introduce the campus, universities case study. So this one is about temple university. Operations need to create a smart building strategy to optimize operation across its 214 buildings, reduce cost and enhance service for its school, business employees and students.
So Microsoft partner,‑magic, utilized Microsoft azure digital twin solution in five buildings on temple's campus. As initial phase of the city management solution.
This solution of university to cut costs, optimize energy and resources and improving service level on the campus.
So as I mentioned, at the beginning, based on those technology component and case studies, as I said, we are exploring a way to support the University of Tokyo's effort as a first step to achieve net zero emission through our technologies.
Of course the University of Tokyo has been various activities, about green transformation so far. Such as sustainable campus project, studying the ‑‑ starting 2008 and participation in the net zero ‑‑ race to zero campaign and publication of the e Tokyo climate action last year, starting last year.
The goal of the first campus GX project is to help them improve energy from a sustainability perspective. This has both environmental impact and technology could apply to other smart campus scenarios, outside of the University of Tokyo. All over the world.
So as we mentioned, the G20 focused on governance. Your data is yours. As I stated in the bottom right corner of the slide, open data environment.
This one. Yeah. And we started the campus GX project as a pie late to demonstrate smart energy use in the campus. How to adapt to technology.
With that, we will expand the current smart campus Pilate project to reduce energy consumption with Microsoft technology, Yao using green University of Tokyo project, which is leading to create smart building, which would influence other smart building policy in the industry.
So this is last slide of my session. I'll end by mentioning that some lessons learning that Microsoft on the smart campus. Number one, start with data. Begin by collecting and analyzing data from sensors and systems. To identify the campus issue and opportunities. The data insight forms the foundation for effective strategy.
#2, optimize process. Before introducing the new technology. Optimize the existing process for effective strategy.
#3 is define Ot use case. So let's specific clear use indicate for internet of things device for energy consumption or improving security.
#4, importance of the floor plan. So it is crucial, critical for smart campus implementation. So let's have an accurate floor plan. That's key.
#5, last li, the construction schedule. So properly managed construction schedule for new infrastructure and technology, meeting the budget and deadline requirement. Thank you for listening, and hand over to the Dr. Esaki.
>> HIROSHI ESAKI: Thank you.
Thank you for introduction. I want to share with you a concrete number, concrete action, based on the vision the Microsoft is having. The important thing is we should show what we can do, using digital technology or using the internet. First of all, many of you may not know about deputies p‑100. Like energy productive 100 percent. It means using the digital technology, you want to improve the efficiency, especially energy efficiency by double.
The same work can be done by a half of energy. That is easy in the case of digital. For example, when we use Google or Microsoft, regarding the application, when we have the cloud computing, more than 80 percent of energy saving.
That is not ‑‑ that's a very ‑‑ thing we can do. This is in 202, how many carbon footprint each country has.
The important thing is this is the how many, ratio of the renewal energy introduction in each countries.
Some countries already 90 percent or 80 percent. Most of the developed country probably 30 or 20 percent. Means large percentage of the renewable energy we have to introduce that you may consider. When you think about EP‑100, the number has to introduce into your world about the renewable energy, going to half.
That's a real number. For example, Germany or U.K. or Spain or Iran, when you have every single industry, every single factory or campus went to EP‑100, we can reduce the power energy consumption into 50 percent.
Then only 25 percent of the increase in the renewal energy. In the case of Germany or U.K. or Spain.
You can think about this. A practical number you can do.
This is India, U.S.A. and Japan.
We need just plus 150 percent renewal energy increase. That would be possible to do, right? Not ten times larger renewal energy. That is a power of digital or the internet we can realize.
Also, I want to put in front of you three techniques for decarbonization. First of all, going to already built system that's as is system solution. Important thing is energy, you know, by for the system operation.
That means there are many opportunities to apply data centric operation or artificial intelligence that this IGF team that's going to be applied to quite easily. When we have accurate data.
Second one is to be, for the future, you know, infrastructure design, that is quite important for developing country or emerging countries.
Even ‑‑ in the case of design, we must reduce a number of physical resources using digital technology.
Also, we design the system by design, the construction and operation, how we use a digital technologies.
This is one of the examples when you think about IT or by IT, as is and to be. Left hand top, that digital twin.
That is grabbing whole total system behavior or how the system is going to do. Important thing is the computer itself, be able to analyze and visualize the system operation when you have the digital twin.
This is one example, 12 years ago, I hacked ‑‑ I'm sorry, I ‑‑ digitized digital twin my university against the (?) by campus spending 66‑megawatt. My building, 1 megawatt. When we have digital twin, we can reduce 31 percent or 22 percent energy savings.
I don't want to say energy saving, that's energy production improvement. Going to be 30 percent or 20 percent. It was 12 years ago, right? Technology is going to be improved a lot, so more complicated, more good digital twin.
Also, at that time, we are academia, Microsoft is industry. Important function on academia want to have interoperability.
So we hate ‑‑ that is important thing is Milt stakeholder discussion should have those kind of global standard for intra‑operability.
So next one is the as is, another interesting thing you can do, this is the actual example. Also this is more than ten years ago. BMW in Germany has their own IT facilities. They analyze all of the tasks in their company, and then they realize only 20 percent of their task requires small latency and critical data. It must be nearby their facilities. 80 percent of the task allowing large latency and not critical data, means 80 percent of the task be able to migrate to 100 percent renewal energy country, which is Iceland and Sweden. Right?
Since the internet or computer system can be globally distributed, then you can select the location, whatever you want. 12 years ago, lesson learned, technology be able to apply those kind of things.
So this is the lesson learned from this, 100 percent renewal energy done somewhere on the earth. Then also some of the on the premise computer be able to go into the data center. There are 30 or 40 percent energy cut. Due to the very high performance HVACs. When you use a cloud, 70 or 80 percent be able to cut by sharing economy. Sharing economy is also good, not only for the power saving, but also the resource reduction. Physical resource, like computers or HVACs or the building itself, large deduction of the system be able to do.
So the other one, especially for developing country or emerging countries, to be, how you think about design the infrastructure. This is the cyber first I mentioned. By IT or for the to be environment, think about assuming you have a good digital technology. This is one example, this is the logistics, about 200 years ago. It was exclusive logistic system, every single company has. That is exclusive use, exclusive build for infrastructure. What the very good invention by the human being was container and PARRETT. This went to sharing economy in physical package transportation, right? When you have the container or Parrett. Every single material to be able to put into the same package. The package be able to transfer by airplane, train, ship or car, whatever you have.
Which is a completely perfect sharing economy. Or existing material or merchandise of the future materials. One example using this particular infrastructure was Amazon. Right? So this is ‑‑ before the internet. What the internet did was exactly the same thing as container and Parrett. Dimensional toll information will be transferred ‑‑ digital information will be transferred anywhere on any technology, like Wi‑Fi, glass fibers, or copper fibers and any material digitized thing will be able to transfer everywhere on the earth. Like a text, video, voice, whatever you have, program as well. Or the printer as well. 3d.
One other thing I want to share is the cost. Carbon footprint. Regarding the physical object transformation. Versus digital objective transformation.
The huge cost going to be different. Huge energy productive. The improvement can be done, replace the physical transportation to digital ‑‑ trans position will be done. This is action number, material, electricity, digital bits.
Order of magnitude. This is real number I discussed with the power company in Japan. How the difference on the operation of cost, install and operation, and replacement, then this is going to be 100, electricity. Versus material, another to order of magnitude difference.
This is very interesting. So this is the reason why I put in those, we want to show the demonstration, what we can do of the concrete number, with figures. Thank you.
>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much. We have now arrived at the interactive session. This is a golden opportunity for all attendees to pose questions or discuss any of the topics we touched on today.
So does anyone have any questions here?
I think Corey. Are you there? Maybe you wanted to introduce one video, right.
>> COREY GLICKMAN: Certainly.
So.
>> MODERATOR: Shortly about the video and I will ask the IT operator to start the video.
>> COREY GLICKMAN: Slot lye. So this video represents a program I had worked on with Berkeley university, with India and the U.S. government, looking at the transformation of cities in the use of technologies of the areas we discussed. The way to view this video is a program that was ‑‑ ran for seven years and went across three countries and sharing some of the lessons and some of the activities that took place.
If you would like to run the video, that would be great.
>> MODERATOR: Okay.
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>> India is poised to become the fifth largest economy in the world.
As more buildings are added, at the healthy rate of 8 percent every year, building energy use is skyrocketing. Trends in the Indian construction, especially new construction, the urban heat increased and the high occupancy levels of India present unique challenges to the building ecosystem. India enjoys many advantages including a strong tradition of passively cooled buildings, a wide occupant tolerance to heat, ready supply of local sustainable construction materials, expensive labor and craft costs. Careful use of resources.
At Lawrence Berkeley national laboratory, we are committed to working with Indian research community to develop building technologies to enhance building comfort, push the energy for efficiency and improve the health, safety and.
>> The United States and Indian have been collaborating on a U.S.‑India joint Center for Building energy research and development. Called C BED. A dynamic public‑private partnership that involves academic research institutions and partners in both countries that do collaborative research to bring new energy efficiency technology to both U.S. and India.
>> In CBERD we deploy what we call a three by three model. The first three is to make sure that we advance government policies, industrial practice and research findings. About energy efficient buildings. The second three is making sure that we understand how to design them right, how to build them right and operate them right.
When this happens, we are able to implement on a wide scale throughout the economy energy efficient buildings with technologies highly cost effective. And are able to reduce energy consumption per square foot by about a factor of 5 below what is the former.
To the collaborative research between U.S. researchers and Indian researchers, or the last five years of CBERD, we have developed nine new technologies, 40 significant exchanges between Indian scientists and U.S. scientists. More than 100 peer reviewed publications, and we are more than 10 demonstrations.
Oning principles of doing that was to bring together information technology and physical systems. U.S. has had a long lead for building world class physical systems, high efficiency chillers and so on. India has a fantastic depth in technical prowess in information technology. Our goal was to bring them together in a way that benefits both countries and each country gets more than what they put in. Working shoulder to shoulder on common problems, developing joint publications, joint technologies, having joint demonstration projects has led to such a deep, mutual respect and understanding that I couldn't have imagined we would be ending at this point.
>> The expertise that the U.S. brought into the collaborative project on building energy efficiency was very helpful. It helped in accelerating the research, developing products and processes which can be deployed and make a real difference in the building sector in India.
>> Another way we collaborate between the U.S. and India is by developing tools and resources for the public that are available on our websites, as well as new facilities like this game‑changing facility called flexlab. It is the world's most advanced test bed for energy efficient technologies. It is also a testing system to allow us to integrate the systems with the electric grid, with batteries and photo voltaic systems. The best practices guide is a tool for how to design energy efficient buildings and has a lot of information on designing the facade, the HVAC system for low energy buildings. These best practices are particularly suited to the cultural, climactic and construction context of India. The guide is based on three core principles. One, using a triple bottom line framework for energy efficiency decision‑making using financial capital and enhanced working environments as a team. Two, aggressive but achievable energy performance targets. Three, creating a shared set of values across all stakeholders from building owners, developers, builders architects, engineers and policy makers.
>> The strategic insight into design, the idea of integrating the building with this electronic mechanical systems and conceptualizing solutions, is a real lesson here. It is the technical depth, the analytical framework and the advice is given, where as the guide goes across very climactic zones and looks at different technical solutions, is extremely helpful indeed. I think it's a great piece of work.
>> I feel like India's been propelled into a digital and decarbonized future and building our prime opportunity to actually use this advantage and really make and shape the future.
>> MODERATOR: Thank you for introducing the video. And India and the U.S. and Japan, U.S.A. and Japan, (?) I think we have much space to, you know, (?) so Corey, I want to ask you, so based on your experience in digital transformation landscape, what do you believe are the primary obstacles not only the universities, but today we discussed about the green building for universities and not only the university, but more like in business filed. What is the obstacle of this, you know, field, do you have any thought or.
>> COREY GLICKMAN: Sure. I would say experience has taught us that the vision really has to be led with a portion of the city. Just as you're talking about the University of Tokyo to Microsoft, that is a great place to startble although you have to have very large ambitions, you need to choose a section that is doable and you need to start fast, actually, and many of these technologies, these digital twins and the ideas, they exist. I would start with there tried and true technologies. If you think that far out, technologies being discovered, you won't move very fast. You should start with technology and do something sizable and look at scale and do responsible R&D. I think the biggest obstacle is ultimately aligning the visionary leadership to the actually implementers, goes back to the Democratization and getting people on the ground to do this.
Digital visualization is a huge way to overcoming this and really having success.
>> MODERATOR: Thank you. So I think you are developing the green building model in the G20 Global Smart Cities Alliance. If you know, possible, you are developing the policy.
>> COREY GLICKMAN: Certainly. One of the programs that we are leading is looking at what we call the green sustainability city alliance right now, and it's about taking policies that, of course, would make sense for cities, but there's a lot out there. Many organizations doing things. So what we looked at was saying, let's look at existing policies and start with areas that would have the most impact, and build upon other's work already versus reinventing or going a different direction. Our first policy is body carbon for existing buildings. We'll build new buildings first, but take existing structures first. The second part for policy is actually procurement. So the idea of sustainable procurement, how do you choose the right materials, get to the right economics coming across there. And then the third area we are still exploring, it takes about 6 to 8 months to do a policy. We are just doing the embodied carbon one. We will likely be zoning, zoning is so important, it is a very complex government issue, locality issue, and I would say the lesson that we have learned over and over again that we hear from everybody, it's about contextualization or localization. You can take a great policy that works in London or that works in Tokyo and does that translate to KYOTO or another city. You probably have to do something upstream or downstream in order for that policy to make sense, right?
I would say the other one is when you ask other policy leaders working on these programs, they are very open to discussing and to sharing their networks. That's another great very powerful thing. Often policy groups try to work in their own siloes and don't reach out enough. When they do, you can quickly accelerate what's taking place.
So that's really what we are looking at right now.
>> MODERATOR: Great. Thank you. What role do you see for global IT companies shaping the future of smart campuses or smart buildings or ‑‑ I mean, you know.
>> COREY GLICKMAN: I'm sorry. They play a very key role. Because ultimately, these systems have to live in a digital backbone, they have to be digitalized for this to work. That's the Microsofts, this is these tool sets that come across there. IT global even as we talk about whether it's generative AI or other areas that are more traditional about running systems, think of this, all buildings already run off the systems, we already have systems that look at our economics that look at our energy, that look at our mobility. However, as we look at sustainability and we look for these efficiencies, as doctor Esaki was talking about, we have to talk about things that are upstream and downstream. Unless it works in the centralized system, they are building attachments, not rebuilding things from scratch. That's what's important for this consistency. Because it's the specialized factory approach, combined with academic R&D leadership, I think, is really what does very well. The winning formula I see right now is what I'm seeing taking place at this point at this table, and what it means is this, if you can take a university academic‑led project and look at something like an airport or a controlled part of the city, and you can get a major IT global service provider with that, with the policy‑makers, you have the chance to have that winning formula.
>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much.
Back to the Tokyo University cases. So I think you already, like theorized the building of the energy consumption, right? What is the key point, you know, I think you have more like ‑‑ key kind of issue to implementing such kind of decarbonized decisions. Do you have any thoughts.
>> HIROSHI ESAKI: We love technology, we love earth, so ‑‑ and also, we really love the students. They are working together. You know, so they are ‑‑ their future power will change the world. So that's an important thing when we have a collaboration with industry and academia. In the case of academia, not only the senior professors, they don't have any power anymore. Right, the younger people have a lot of powers and experience to the future.
When I talk with a colleague, he initiated leading universities collaboration about the technological hackathon or demonstrations. There is demonstration is quite important.
Like how we show the fact or knowledge, experience sharing is quite important. Not only by document, by real experience. Attaching to the computer system in the building or campus. That is quite important.
So that we share with Microsoft, when we went to the headquarters office, we share engineers, or executives should attach a real system and realize what's going on. Then think about the real solution or concrete solution, not the politician. That's the ‑‑ first we mention the mistake of the smart city at this point in time is government initiated. Multi stakeholder action, it didn't. We must have multi stakeholder Azure approach with academia and industry supported by government. That is an important model. We want to share based on the practical experience. That what the IGF should do.
The other thing, Democratization, that is yet another point that Corey mentioned about. Not control by the single large company, nor large government. The data itself, owned by users, right? So how to protect those privacy or property, then we must have the kind of collaboration in the case of the public sectors, infrastructures, or private sectors. Very careful, very healthy multi stakeholder discussion about how to manage the data privacy or data usage is yet another thing. Important thing is that is not determined by government. It must be determined by multi stakeholder discussion.
>> MODERATOR: You want to ‑‑ okay.
I'd like to ask ‑‑ this is actually, I heard that Microsoft, azure digital twin, I'm very interesting, because, you know, using the IT software, this means we use the electricity, but we can't really share electricity. But this is very interesting. So, you know, like the Microsoft is a giant, and if you provide that kind of software to the buildings, many building owners or some developers or say kind of ‑‑ worry about that. As a technology government, what is obstacle if you have any thoughts or things to share.
>> Thanks for your questions. Well, governance of the IT and also data is very important. So we see that not only the general IT but now the generative AI is the very ‑‑ like ‑‑ so as I said, the ownership of the data and control of the data is really important, even more important than ever.
So as Dr. Esaki said, the multi stakeholder decision making is really important. To do that, it's ‑‑ so we think about the ‑‑ how I can say, we think about the ‑‑ the data. So that could be the obstacle.
So as Microsoft said, Microsoft said that data face the customer, but we need to multi stakeholder need to recognize that to move forward very smoothly, yeah, I guess.
>> MODERATOR: Thank you very much. Corey mentioned (?) kind of green building, but I think for many companies, if we have such kind of guideline policy, I think it's very easy to discuss for any ‑‑ what is the standard. If we know that, this is very easy to implement, so I think, you know, we really needed to implement that kind of policy to the market. Thank you very much. So we have three or four minutes. If the participants have any questions, I'd like to ask to speak. Do you have?
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Okay. I can't see any questions. So maybe after the session, if you want to communicate with each speaker. Okay. Could you.
>> HIROSHI ESAKI: I think it should be science technology engineering and medicine., stem. Education thing. Also please feel free to ask any question.
Yeah.
>> MODERATOR: Okay. So could you ‑‑ back to the slide. I just want to mention some points
So I know, you know, in this venue, there are so many experts here, and definitely what we discussed today, we are ‑‑ if you want to join the G20 Global Smart Cities Alliance, let me know that. There are so many experts, policy maker, academia and private sector experts, joining our project. The discussion about what the policy should be implemented in the city, and, you know, we are always welcome. Let me know if you want to join this. At the conclusion, so thank you very much for participating today. What an enlightening session we have had from understanding the smart campus to discussing cutting edge technologies, it's clear that the future infrastructure is on a promising path. A special thank you to our esteemed speakers for sharing their knowledge and to all our attendees for their active participation. We don't have any questions, though. Thank you for the learning and insight to make our campus smarter and our world a better place. Thank you and see you in the next session of IGF. Thank you very much.
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