IGF 2018 WS #327
Fighting sexual abuse material: a public-private model

Organizer 1: Arda Gerkens, INHOPE
Organizer 2: Marjolijn Bonthuis, NLIGF
Organizer 3: Auke Pals, Student

Speaker 1: Michiel Steltman, Private Sector, Western European and Others Group (WEOG)
Speaker 2: Denton Howard, Civil Society, Western European and Others Group (WEOG)
Speaker 3: Jacqueline Beauchere, Private Sector, Western European and Others Group (WEOG)
Speaker 4: Caroline Pineros, Civil Society, Latin American and Caribbean Group (GRULAC)
Speaker 5: Su Sonia Herring, Civil Society, Eastern European Group
Speaker 6: jos Flury, Technical Community, Western European and Others Group (WEOG)


Arda Gerkens

Online Moderator

Marjolijn Bonthuis


Auke Pals


Round Table - 60 Min


Mr Howard and mrs Pineros will speak from the hotlines perspective. How has the amount of CSAM developed? What problems do the hotlines encounter? How do they think the future looks like and what is theior opinion on the Dutch developments? Mr Flury and Mrs Beauchere come from the industry. Mr Flury is a ITdeveloper who knows a lot about the latetst technica developments, also the ones the Dutch Htline is aiming to work with. Microsoft has provided in an early stage the fingerprint technology to anyone who wants to fight CSAM and are constantly looking to combat this problem from a technical perspective. Mr Steltman represents the Dutc ISP’s. WHat do they think about these developments? How do they want ot be involved? How can they help in the fight against CSAM? Miss Herring will discuss the human rights aspect. Will this public private bodies affect digital rights? Can we prevent this and how?


The speakers are from Latin America, Europe, Asia. We have around 50/50 gender equality and particpants from three continents. One of the participants is a youth IGF member. We have NGO’s as well as industry.

We will elaborate on the legal bodies proposed in the Netherlands to have a private-public entity to fight CSAM. We will discuss the technical possibilities, the responsibilities of the industry and the challenges hotlines encounter. Is the Dutch model the way to go? Can we leave law enforcement tasks in the hand of private bodies?
We will kick off with the developments in The Netherlands and explore along the line with the speakers on these developments and other that are occuring in the world.

We have chosen the form of round table so any one can participate. The chairs will be left open to people who want to join in the discussion. The moderator will invite people at the start to join the discussion and alle interventions from the speakers should be brief and relevant. The intention of the round table is to have a dynamic conversation, identifying possible obstacles or changes from the conversation. As time is limited, we need to be to the point and relevant.

The amount of CSAM online is rising. Law Enforcement and hotlines cannot stop this growth. How can industry help? How can we tackle this problem together? The Dutch minister of Justice and Security is looking for public-private partnership in this. How could that work? This would ne a new form of fighting online child sexual abuse material. Is this the answer to fight the growth?

Online Participation

The online moderator will be in close communication with the offline moderator. As the goals is to have a maximum of participation from the audiance, the online participants will be invited to join the conversation. If someone wants to make a comment or pose a question, the online moderator will inform the offline moderater, which will then make sure to give the floor to the online participator. This is also to prevent that the remarks made are no longer valid.