IGF 2022 Day 0 Event #19 Internet Society’s Collaborative Leadership Exchange (CLX)

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>> MARK CARVELL: All right, okay, sorry, I didn't realize I had to switch on my laptop.  I've been speaking to the room here on the mic.  I was just saying that I'm the onsite moderator here for this Internet Society session, and on the Collaborative Leadership Exchange program, our project for supporting and strengthening the internet, and we have an online moderator too, Mauricio Abdol, waving on screen now.  Thank you, and I'll hand it over to you now ready to start the ball rolling and introduce the program and presentations and so on.  So okay, Mauricio, over to you.


>>  MAURICIA:  I'm leaning into my screen so I'm closer to the mic, good morning, good afternoon, good evening everyone, wherever you are in the world.  Thank you for joining us at the Internet Society's Collaborative Leadership Exchange meeting.  We are very excited to share what ‑‑ I'll give the floor to our ambassadors sharing the work they've been doing.


Before we do that, we have the honor of having our director fellowships in the room with us today, miss Alejandra Prieto.  Before we give the floor to our ambassadors, it would be appropriate and correct to first allow her to say a few words, so to kick off our session today, I would like to introduce you to Miss Alejandra Prieto, our director you of fellowships ‑‑ Director of Fellowships, the floor is yours, you can take over.


>> ALEJANDRA PRIETO: Thank you for moderating onsite.  It's a challenge sometimes to have onsite and online moderation.  People both places, but I think we will manage.  Just be positive, this will be a great session, we have a lot of people with us today willing to share with your ideas, so just looking forward to starting.  So let me share my screen.  I will ‑‑ can you see the agenda right now?  Perfect.


So this is what we have planned for today.  So we will just a bit our program we have of the intersociety then we will have discussions, two part discussions in total, ten.  So we have 30 wonderful Internet Society IGF youth ambassadors that have been working hard for several months, and they had different ideas that they wanted to implement.  So they were working on initiatives that are going to be presented today.  But not just presented.  What we want is to have a conversation, a discussion, this is a collaborative exchange.  So people in the room, people online here in Zoom are really welcome to discuss and have comments and questions.  So we will allow them to present for a while and then we will open the floor to have a discussion.  So please be prepared to share your input and have a conversation.  This is what we really want.  At the end, we will have Mauricia back to share reflection and wrap up.  This is housekeeping rules that Mauricia could share in the link, get access to that.  The code of conduct is the most important thing, we want people to be respectful and this is really important.  So please respect that.  For questions and answers, Mauricia will explain later how we can all ‑‑ all the questions and answers in this room.  Just checking if you can see the slides because I see myself twice, so I don't know if you're seeing my face or the slides.  So Mauricia.


>>  MAURICIA:  We are seeing your face and the slides.


>> ALEJANDRA PRIETO: Let me talk a little bit about our fellowships that we have.


So I'm Director of the fellowship programs at Internet Society.  For several years we have been running fellowships, and year after year, we of course improved, we learned from experience and we want to have kind of like what the people want, because we have one mission, and it's that the internet is for everyone.  At the Internet Society, we really work towards reaching this vision, by promoting ‑‑ promoting and defending bigger and stronger internet.  We can't do that without having people.  People is the center of everything we do.  Of course the internet is what we want to promote and defend, but we cannot do it without people.


Specifically for these programs, we identified that we have what we call internet champions all around the world that are those that are there on the ‑‑ they can advocate for our values and principles, and they are ‑‑ as the ambassadors you are going to meet today, those are behind the development and the advancement of the internet, because just a reminder the internet flourished because a community of people worked tirelessly to help it grow.  We found that community of people, the internet would never have existed as we see it and know it today.  Really if we want to keep expanding it and evolving it, we need people.  That's why we want to empower these people that are the internet champions we mentioned here, for the skills development to become ‑‑ the key actors, we want them to take action.  At the end, the goal is to goal and strengthen the internet because we want to benefit the diverse populations.


So to achieve this, we work closely with partners, we have a list of great partners from all around the world.  We develop a range of programs that are there to equip these people that are going to be the internet champions we need with tools and knowledge.


At the end, we really want you to accelerate your career, make your voices heard during the o global internet champions and shape the future the path of the internet.


Today we see that we are going to actually make ‑‑ you are going to make your voices heard because we'll hear from you these internet champions we have identified as IGF youth ambassadors.


All of this is also to mention that we have fellowships, of course, but at the same time, we also have some courses that we call training and e‑learning activities.  They are mostly online, but we are going back to physical events, I hope we will have more face‑to‑face training, and all of them will join network of alumni that it's really, really important that it stays alive for years after years so we have this group of ‑‑ this community of internet champions that can impact the internet.


The programs really ‑‑ they've been built for that.  It's to equip internet champions with the skills and knowledge empowering them to defend an open and global internet connected and secure and trustworthy for everyone.


The people you are going to hear from today are the IGF youth ambassadors.


What we know that they can do, thanks to the program that they've completed and their skills, is they can make a great impact on internet governance in different communities.  That is where we initiative that you will hear from them later, you will understand that the impact is quite clear.  Of course, they are building their skills, knowledge and connect with the network, please help them get connected to you if you see someone in your region, in your country or interest in something that you are maybe working on, do not hesitate to contact them.  Be sure you keep in touch.  Connections are really important.


And of course, they will be part of this platform we are all working together, like network, they can raise their voice and mobilize action on internet issues that matters.  This is what they are doing.  You will see them on screen.


To finalize my section today, I will just share that we have not only one program, there is one we are talking about today, youth ambassador program, but we also have more fellowships, mid‑career fellowship and early career fellowship.  I want to talk about them today, but I will share a link in case you want to take a look after.  Now we now need to listen carefully to what our ambassadors are going to present.


With this, I'll hand back to Mauricia who will explain a little bit more about how the Collaborative Leadership Exchange highlighting Collaborative Leadership Exchange is going to take place today.  We are ‑‑ what are going to be though topics our IGF youth ambassadors will talk about.  Thank you for being with us today.  Back to you, Mauricia.


>>  MAURICIA:  Thank you so much, I hope everyone in the room is excited about the fellowships we offer at the Internet Society.


We are kicking off the Collaborative Leadership Exchange meeting immediately.  I'll kick it off with a bang.  What is really important for us to remember for today's meeting is that we will have a presenter speak.  Once a presenter has delivered their presentation, we would observe 6‑minute discussion time.  That brings us back to the title of this meeting, which is called the Collaborative Leadership Exchange.  So we really are advocating for and encouraging everyone in the room to please strange ideas with our ambassadors, give them feedback, ask them questions, it's really about an interchange rather than a one‑way communication.  So we really want to encourage you to participate, participate, participate.


Without further ado, before I introduce actually our first presenters, you can tell we are excited, please know we will have five presenters going first, so it will be the presenter and then the six in the discussion.  Each presenter will have 7 minutes to present.  So you'll have 7 minutes to speak and deliver the idea of your initiative, followed by 6 minutes of exchange.  Once we have gone through the first five ambassadors of our program, we will have a five‑minute potty break so you can be very clear and I will indicate to you the time we should be back in the room, if anyone decides to take a quick jot out.


It will be five presenters, five‑minute body break and reconvene to finish off with the five remaining presenters that are in the room and online today.


So thank you so much, again, for your presence and as they are presenting, they will also then introduce their initiative idea in the best way they feel they would like to share.  In addition to that, we are also sharing the titles of the presentations on the screen for you to be able to follow along.


And based on what you see in front of you and who are is coming up next, I would love to introduce to you our first group, group #1.  Speaking or representing for group #1 today will be Mr. Ashlesh Bridar, the floor is yours.  I'll share your power are PowerPoint now.  Ashlesh, can you open your mic so we can hear your lovely voice.


>>  ASHLESH:  Yes.  Am I audible?


>>  MAURICIA:  Yes, you are very audible, that is fantastic.  I'm heading over to your presentation and will start sharing shortly.


All right.  Over to you.


>>  ASHLESH:  Thank you, Mauricia.  Hello, everyone, from ‑‑ hello from New Delhi.  Others joining online.  I must say there is a strong sense of, as the youth calls it, formal, as we are missing being onsite at IGF.  But nevertheless, glad to be here today as Internet Governance Forum youth ambassadors for 2022.  I'd like to thank the entire fellowship team, all the mentors for the journey over the last three months leading up to IGF.  Today I'm here to present my team's initiative that we worked on together with my incredible teammates, Elena and Avani, as well as our mentors who helped us shape and sharpen our project.  Let's get started, shall we?


Our initiative is bestiary of cybercrime.  Here's what it entails.  Can we move to the next slide.


To put it in a single line, we are co‑creating a resource, a bestiary of cybercrimes.  We were inspired by illustrated compilations of beasts from middle ages and the intent to use this format to talk about the modern day beasts.  Just like any other bestiary.  We will profile each one with a description.  Throughout the process we'll interact with cybercrime experts, creators, experts through conversations with workshops and open calls.


Sounds, amazing, right?  What is the object.  Next slide.


Thank you.  First, we intended for this to be a super accessible asset both in terms of distribution and content, starting a conversation informing the public on cybercrimes in a fun and engaging way.  2nd, it will be cocreated with members and experts from the communities, artists, young internet leaders bringing in the aspect of co‑creation and community building.


And third, coming to the most exciting object for me personally, our experience throughout this process of compiling the research, interacting with the community, creating engaging literacy resources will be documented in the form of how to report shares how art can be effectively used to communicate objectives to an audience beyond the policy.


This is one of the main questions that got us started on this initiative.  How can we leverage art for internet governance and make the conversation we are having here accessible.


Moving on to the next slide.


So in short, our initiative will be focused on the creation of two main deliverables, the bestiary in the form of a zine and documenting our experience throughout.  Next slide.


Here's the sample of what the structure of the bestiary will look like.  The first case study, we'll profile Pegasus, the infame, activists, journalist, headquarters defenders, Supreme Court judges and a whole lot of people around the world.


You might be aware, we have stories and organizations around the world.  In the bestiary we will profile different characteristics of the beast.  Who developed it, the type of attack, the number of people affected, geographical location.  We will document some history and timelines of that type.  The profile would also have experts connection with insights and comments from cybersecurity experts aimed towards the readers.


Next slide.


Now let's talk about the timelines, in the next few weeks we intend to put together the first prototype we just discussed.  We will share it with experts for their feedback and after addressing the feedback, we'll test the prototype with a wider audience on how effective the format is and how accessible the copy is.  Towards the end of the year, we'll start documenting our learnings and all the challenges we faced throughout the process.


In terms of the future of the initiative, over the following months, we'll put out an open call for contributions from creative researchers, artists, experts to co‑create the full zine with multiple beasts, including more cyberattacks.  The intent to put out the entire set of assets into the zine and reports for Internet Society to be used for their efforts.


I'd like to appeal that if any one of you is interested in what we are doing, please reach out to us and talk to us, especially if you're interested in youth engagement, cybersecurity, and education.  Thank you for your time today.  We are very excited to see how this takes shape and now I invite Elena and Avani to join me in taking the questions.


>>  MAURICIA:  Wonderful.  On that note, Ashlesh, thank you for your fantastic presentation and very unique, indeed.  We will kick off with the onsite questions or comments.  So we would like to ask anyone in the room to raise their hand if they'd like to speak and also in this moment I'd like to hand over to our own site moderator, Mr. Mark Carvell, who will moderate the room and take us through any comments or questions from the onsite participants.  So over to you, Mr. Mark.


>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you, Mauricia.


Got a bit of an echo.


Okay.  I don't see any hands raised in the room, looking around.  Does anybody want to put a question or comment at this time?


Following Ashlesh's presentation.  No, I don't see any questions, Mauricia, back to you.


>>  MAURICIA:  Thank you so much.  Perhaps if more comes along the way, while we are taking the online comments and questions, we would invite you to raise your hand, please feel free to exchange ideas and feel free to share with the rest of the room.  We do have a comment online that I'd love to share.  I just want to get the name correctly.  Put I can't see because it's in a different language.  But the comment there is amazing illustrations.  So I definitely echo that.  As you can hear from the room, Elena, Avani, Ashlesh, the illustrations you have shared are absolutely fantastic.  I would also like to ask a question, but before I ask my question, I'll give the floor to our Director of Fellowships to share her comments and then I will take over from there.  Over to you, miss Alejandra.


>> ALEJANDRA PRIETO: I want to say that maybe we can ask the question to the audience.  Ashlesh, if you have a question that you would like to hear from the audience about your ‑‑ the initiative you're presenting with your group, that would be also a possibility.  This is a conversation, so it could be that you maybe want to hear something specifically so you can use this time also to have that discussion open with a comment or a question you would like to hear from the audience.  I'm saying this for everyone.  Be prepared to just open the discussion with something that you would like to know from people in the IGF right now.  Thank you.  Mauricia, I think you had a question, so back to you.  I see another hand up.


>>  MAURICIA:  Okay.  I give preference to Izaan and will follow up.


>>  IZAAN:  Can you hear me?  Cool.  I just wanted to congratulate Ashlesh and the rest of the team on the initiative.  I think it looks really, really incredible.  I think it's a very good way of trying to visualize a lot of the problems we have in a way that makes it accessible and it's very, very ‑‑ has parallels to my own initiative which we'll get to in a second, the power of imagery is something that sticks for quite a long while.  One of the questions I had, I guess, a bit of a facetious questions, how are you going to allocate beasts to the particular problems that you identify, or you will get from this collaboration, because you started off with Pegasus and Pegasus obviously was the code name and makes it slightly an obvious inclusion into the bestiary.


For example, there are other issues out there.  Let's say we have other hacker organizations.  How are you going to decide what beasts are going to be in a corresponding to those particular kinds of issues, that's a question I have.  I want to say it's a really good initiative, thank you.


>>  ELENA:  Thank you for your question.  In the final bestiary, and the shape and form it's going to take, it's going to be up to the community and communities we are going to collaborate with.  So this is also an exploration in what has hit different communities, so what kind of cyber-attacks that have been ‑‑ it's going to be elected by our different collaborators to choose which kind of incidents we'll be focusing on and through conversations we are going to come up with an imaginative way of representing the different attacks that has a connection to the shape and form of which the attacks happen.


It will be taking shape in the upcoming months.  So I hope I answered your question, and I also would like to answer more questions if there are any questions.


>>  MAURICIA CAN I PLEASE ASK MY QUESTION.  I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS IN THE:  I'm really an advocate for giving everyone access to credible work.  Will this project be open source.  Will it be shared at libraries as well, what type of reach are you looking at.


>>  ELENA:  Open sourcing our material is one of the ways we are hoping to reach out to more and more people because our main target is a general audience that would like to know more about ways and strategies to defend themselves from cyber-attacks.  So the publication is going to be hosted in free and open source formats and websites for everyone to download and, of course, we Will would also like to have it published, but this is hopefully something that is going to be in the works later on, possibly next year, to also distributed to different libraries for now our main goal is to distribute it online as this would grant access to more and more people.


>>  MAURICIA:  I do have a follow-up question, I want to check where we are on time.  Mark, are there any comments or feedback from the room?  And how are we doing with time?  Are we able to take one more question.


>> MARK CARVELL: I think Mauricia ‑‑ echo again, sorry.  I think we are close to having to move on to the next presentation.  But.


>>  MAURICIA:  Anyone in the room that has a comment or quick question before we move on?  Going once, going twice.  In that case, I'm going to move on swiftly to our next group of presenters ‑‑ well, actually it's going to be one speaker, and she's a fantastic voice based in Africa.  She will introduce the title of their initiative and then I will share the screen and their presentation.  So without further ado, please I also would like to just note, if you have any questions or comments that come up while we are presenting or while ‑‑ while we are proceeding, please feel free to put them in the comment section, I'll also be sharing a link to a Google Doc where you can post questions and comments as well.  If you would prefer to do that instead, everyone in the room also feel free to interject and let us know if you have anything you would like to share in this exchange, okay.  So without further ado, I hope you're in the room.  Can I have your mic open and hear your lovely voice?


>>  THEA:  Thank you so much.  Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, to those joining online and all of you here, I'm Thea Rose, I'm presenting on behalf of two of my colleagues, they're not here.  I'm sure I'll do justice to their presentation.  So our initiative is a measure of three different projects, the title of our presentation, of course, is on digital education, and on online safety.  Mauricia, you could help me share the screen online.  I'll give a background of our initiative and why that is very important and why we would ‑‑ I would encourage all of you to support and go for our projects.  So we wanted to provide education, digital education specifically in the area of encryption and cybersecurity and we were focusing on younger people.  Now when you talk about younger people, we were looking at youth, specifically between the ages of 25 years and below.  Yeah.  And again, the global encryption coalition has done a wonderful job so far and one of the issues I have noticed as a trend is that a lot of people have the data of ‑‑ in the public without even knowing.  For example, when you give your consent to a social media platform, for example, if you want to open an account on Facebook, they would ask you to agree on something.  How many of us here take time to read and really agree with that?


Then again, if you do take your time to read, do you really have an option to say yes or no.  If you don't agree, you don't use the platform.  So most people end up saying I agree and the information is out there.


Teaching in the school, one of the things I've noticed a lot of younger folks share personal information on social media platform.  So just following one platform, I could know where the person lives, favorite foods within a week by following the trend.


So we have come to kind of an agreement we really cannot stop people from posting information online really, we can't do that, but we can educate them on how to keep the information secret.


What is a better way of doing that than having a color book ‑‑ having fun and learning at the same time.  So what my colleague Shivam is doing, actually creating a platform.  Based in Europe, you would want to create a platform where they are going to host causes on cybersecurity, internet governance and all that, the courses are free, the website is already running, it's ongoing, we have 100 courses on that platform.  It's free of charge, don't need to pay for that.


It is going to be self‑created.  So they are going to have ‑‑ we are going to be reaching out to people to create content or lesson notes sort of and put in to educate.  Now on the same platform, I am going to create an encryption color book together with all of us here, of course I'll be reaching out images as well.  But this is how the collaboration will run, a 25‑page color book, I have a sample of how the page should look.  The pages are very colorful to you to do that.


On each of the page ‑‑ on each of the page, we are going to have an image of an encryption advocate.  I intend to work with the global encryption coalition to find out or source those 25 advocates, we are going to have, that's an image, a sample image of one.  And then the other one could look to show that.  Now, I'm going to ask each ‑‑ I'm going to ask each advocate to give us a lesson on an encryption.  In its simplest form.  One of the things I have learned is that some of the encryption terms sore technical people don't really understand and because of that, they are not really interested in learning on that.  We are going to make it more simple and more easier to understand.  So what you see on the page is a sample of how the culture book is going to be like, it will be virtual.  You can color it virtually.


I also intend to print it out, if possible, but for now, from this year, it's going to run virtually with that.


Then my third colleague, Djim is going to take our resources onto the ‑‑ Djim is in Africa.  Sorry I can't pinpoint the place specifically.  His initiative is to now take the materials we've developed, the advocacy work into senior high schools and institutions.  He intends to organize how the workshops and trainings on cybersecurity and all that.  This is putting it all together, it blends because then you have a hard copy material, that will be hosted on a website that is free, easy to be accessed and at the same time we are not just leaving it online.  We are moving from institutions to tell them about the available material and how they can use that.


In terms of importance, we all know virtually, there are a lot of sessions, we keep talking about it all the time, how important it is, wouldn't you want your child to actually be safe online without necessarily having to be on them.  Most of us are here, we have our work at home, we don't know what they are watching or reading, we can't even moderate content online.  Wouldn't you want to give them that education so when you're out of it house, you are more comfortable that at least they kind of know how to be safe on the internet.  That is relevant.


In terms of implementation, the website is already up going, the 2023 didn't generate too much, you can fully go and take your online courses, the color book should be ready at the latter end of the year.  And of course, the trainings would ‑‑ the cohort trainings are starting from April all the way going down.  This is what our initiatives are.  I'm open to questions and of course input if there is any.  This is a sample of the website I mentioned and some of the courses, they are free of charge and, again, they are content internally generated and some we would outsource to ‑‑ to those areas to work on, thank you so much.


>>  MAURICIA:  As we have done before, thank you so much, Theorose for sharing.  We already have a question from the online audience, but per our process, I'm going to allow those on site to feel a bit more included and go first.  So Mr. Mark Carvell, over to you again, are there anyone wanting to contribute in the room.


>> MARK CARVELL: Okay.  Thank you Mauricia.  I don't see any hands raised, but ‑‑ sorry.  Down at the far end, okay.  Please introduce yourself and fire away with your question, thanks.


>> AUDIENCE MEMBER: From Tunisia, I just wanted to thank Theorose for the interesting project.  I have one question while she mentioned that there's people who are going to contribute in this book, they can add content to the book.  I just wanted to learn more, who are these people, are there certain criteria, expert or people you are going to reach to, how do you ‑‑ evaluate the content going to be in the book, if there's certain criteria or I don't know, selection criteria for the content that you wanted in the book?  Thank you so much.


>>  THEOROSE:  Okay.  In terms of content moderation or what sort of content there's going to be in there.  I mentioned earlier I'm going to collaborate with the global encryption coalition from the Internet Society.  So that we kind of send out the information.  Of course I want people to be educated because I want the correct and right information in there.  So we have people that teaches encryption as a course.  In terms of the technical knowledge, what encryption is, the types of encryption, that I would want a ‑‑ in those areas.


The book is going to have quotes as well, if you were following the coalition, they reach out to individuals to say how encryption has empowered their life.  I'll do a little demonstration.  This is the collab book on the side, right side, we have ‑‑ for example, if you want to contribute to it, you are going to send me an image, e‑mail image, we'll do a cartoon version of your image, we are going to have knowledge for encryption.  Encryption is a, b and c here and have your quote because you're not an expert in that area.  If you're an expert, it's your image plus the lesson.


Now, I don't want to restrict it.  We are going to open up the floor ‑‑ call for participant, expert and people who would want to share quotes.  Again, we would want a quote relevant and important.  I keep sharing this example before I get no matter what encryption, I used to share my password with everybody.  I don't want to forget, when I'm not with my phone and need to go into my e‑mail, I can call a friend to check my e‑mail for me.  I realized that was the wrong thing, my password is all over the place, I could save my bank pin and leave my phone with anybody, and they all have it.  That's a bad lesson.


Certain experience is more ‑‑ it's important and something that everybody could relate because we do that a lot.


So, again, we would send out the code to see how relevant it is.  Once the first production is good, we were continual code, we could have more people in the system.


>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you.  We are quite tight on time available for discussion.  I know it's very useful for explanation, so that's very helpful.  As we are the tight on time, back to Mauricia for online.  Sorry.  Okay.  Just very quick, very quick.


>> AUDIENCE MEMBER: Thank you for the presentation, my name you is Abraham from Ghana.  I'm part of the youth ambassador.  I want to say fantastic job being done here.  In terms of the website, we have various jurisdictions, in terms of language barrier.  How are we going to ensure that people from different regions, in terms of language translation, do we have that feature in it whereby if not, you can include this for the people who can speak French can learn the actual language, who can speak Hindi.  You can factor that into it.  Understand the home language other than English, thank you very much.


>>  THEOROSE:  We do have some languages, we have Portuguese, French and English.  We would incorporate that in more.


>> MARK CARVELL: Thanks very much.  Very important point.  Thank you for that.  Mauricia back to you for any quick online questions.


>>  MAURICIA:  Yes, we are very aware of time.  So please be direct with your question and also my ‑‑ this is to everyone, when you are providing feedback or you're answering a question, please also try and do it in the most succinct manner as possible.  I can't see the name, but it does say Ghana viewing hub.  The person from Ghana that would like to share, your hand is up, you know have the floor.


>> AUDIENCE MEMBER: I hope you can share.  This is Shadrak joining.  So I'm in Ghana viewing hub.  I would like to know, yeah, you mentioned that copies of a book ‑‑ their book will be shared to schools.  So like how ‑‑ how is it ‑‑ like how are they going to work that to ensure schools better understands like security issues like encryption issues, because nowadays, a lot of students know a lot of stuff on social media.  But how would they assure these students really understands encryption, be able to protect themselves online without sharing their passwords with colleagues, but by then they realize it has been shared online without their knowledge.  I want to know how students really understand the encryption, thank you.


>>  THEOROSE:  So in terms of understanding, I did mention that we would try ‑‑ we are trying to break down the technical, to make it simpler, all right, to make it in a basic form for people to understand.  Then in terms of education and sharing, we are again doing our pilot stage, we have identified some institutions that do teach cybersecurity, so we are hoping to reach out to those institutions to see if we could collaborate with some of the lecturers to include that in that teaching schedule and all that.  Again, if you are following what my third colleague is going to do, Djim, move from secondary schools and institutions, organizing boot camps and training sessions.  Some of us say, I mean, the world is big, we cannot reach everywhere, but hoping to leverage on the various resources we have to do that.


Those who would want to assist, my e‑mail is down there.  You could reach out to me, and we would pick up from there, thank you.


>>  MAURICIA:  Thank you for your response.  Quick one from you, Izaan, then we need to move on.


>>  IZAAN:  Thank you, Mauricia and thank you, Theorose and the rest of the team for an interesting presentation.  I had a quick comment.  So usually when we are talking about encryption, we have parties that we refer to, so you have the story of Alice and Bob who are trying to communicate with each other and have Eve who is eavesdropper trying to listen in.  I think that story of Alice and Bob will hasn't been told in a story form or a narrative form.  I think since John Gordon in 1984.  So I think it would be a very interesting thing to probably add to your coloring book to make the story of Alice and Bob come to life.  It's something that will be very appealing, I feel, to people of a younger generation as well when you have the story of encryption being told in that sort of way.  I think it's a very interesting idea because the sooner the people are exposed to the need to have privacy and encryption and to do so in a way using characters we have already built for this purpose like Alice and Bob, I think that would be a very big synergy, I look forward to seeing this project to completion, thank you.


>>  MAURICIA:  I take it there's no comments further from Theorose.  She would have opened her mic if she wanted to say something.  Let us move swiftly along.  Thank you for your fantastic contribution.


Let that be the encouragement everyone in the room to keep the engagement going and keep the questions and comments coming.  Without further ado, we would like to hand over to our next presenting group and representing group #3 would be miss Kristine Kim.  If you're in the room, can we hear your lovely voice.


>>  KRISTINE:  Hello.


>>  MAURICIA:  I need you to speak a little bit louder, you sound faint.


>>  KRISTINE:  Can you hear me.


>>  MAURICIA:  Still a bit far.  I think you might need to move closer to your microphone:  Kristine:  Can you hear me now.


>>  MAURICIA:  I'm going to share your presentation slides now.  And we .


>>  CHRISTINE:  Hi from Washington DC, I'm very excited to be with you today.  My name is Christine, I've been working with Lucy examining privacy laws in after a in the way of AI and emerging technologies.  Next slide, please.  So these are our bios that would be available on our initiative, which is a blog.  Lucy and I both work in the legal sector.  Our approach will focus more on laws and policies.  Next slide, please.


So our broader goal is to more widely inform the general public about privacy issues in Africa that are caused or impacted by AI and other emerging technologies such as the Meta verse, blockchain and e government processes.  So we will write a series of blog posts, each dedicated to a privacy issue across African countries, and we plan to draw from news articles, scholarly sources, policy rationales and interviews to assess the privacy laws in these African countries and whether they provide protections for vulnerable minorities and plan to propose solutions inspired by approaches used by local communities and ‑‑ as well as other different countries that present long term potential for privacy protection.


The purpose of our initiative is to review the data protection, privacy and AI laws in African countries and look into evolving privacy Kerns for minorities such as children, persons with disability and women.


Next slide, please.


So we have identified four objectives for this initiative.  We'll be analyzing the laws concerning data protection, privacy and AI in African countries and considering whether they address the sociocultural context of the continent so that we can offer feasible solutions.


We'll be identifying privacy risks in these countries including rights of vulnerable groups and gender concerns.


We'll also be providing policy recommendations, not restricting only to AI, but this includes other emerging technologies so that we can help minimize privacy risks and 4th, we will conduct comparative studies across different governments and their approaches to governing data, privacy and AI.


So this initiative will involve conducting a deep dive analysis of these laws in Africa and determining whether the approaches taken and whether the same addresses privacy concerns on the continent.  The research will result in a provision of recommendations and approaches that can be adopted to address the concerns that we'll outline.


We'll also plan to monitor engagement metrics that are made available by the blog's platform.  So how many views, comments and likes we received based on the post.  Also that we can determine whether this information is helpful, interesting and relevant to the general public.  We plan to tailor some posts towards parents or lawmakers.  A post, for example on children's privacy and African laws governing this will be written with parents and caretakers in mind, so that they're better able to understand how their child is impacted.  Next slide, please.


So we are still working on a title for a blog post.  This is a short introduction of what we'll be posting as ‑‑ on the website.  And I wanted to share an example of a blog post topic that we've been brainstorming.  In January 2020, are Kenya's high court blocked an e‑government initiative that aimed to collect citizen biometric data.  They made this due to a lack of data protection laws, in addition to Kenya's data protection act, which doesn't specifically regulate technologies like facial recognition technology.


So in our blog post we write about this topic and provide modern day policy recommendations.


Next slide, please.


So we would love suggestions and any comments that you might have and thank you for allowing us to present this.


>>  MAURICIA THANK YOU SO MUCH CHRISTINE AND THANK YOU FOR STICK:  Thank you for sticking to the time.  Mr. Mark Carvell, anyone on the site in the room that would like to contribute or comment or ask a question?


>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you, Christine.  Yes, I see a hand up, please introduce yourself and provide your question, thank you.


>> AUDIENCE MEMBER: My name is Katerina, I'm one of the participants of this year's youth ambassador program.  And I would like to thank you for this amazing initiative.  Could you please tell us more maybe on some sort of example that in your blog, you will identify that some law is not addressing some issues, especially related to the vulnerable groups, what kind of recommendations you can suggest, thank you very much.




>>  LUCY:  When it comes to what to discuss, most of the Africa protection laws are not gender specific.  They generalize, they take issues with gender.  So for example, for gender, the issues that we've been a gender, diversified people, experience online also when they use applications not addressed, so for example, an example of a solution in such a scenario will be to take advice ‑‑ to look into this issue they are going to raise and make sure and expand their policy to cover these issues on gender and not just generalize these issues into one.  Thank you.


>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you, Lucy, any more questions or quick comments in the room?


One, if you could keep it quick, we got to keep on time.


>> AUDIENCE MEMBER: I'm from Ethiopia.  I just want to make sure that all the new technologies ‑‑ all the new emerging technologies such as machine learning, AI, are dependent on the data they are gathering.  I just want to ask how you are planning to make sure that the policies we are raising here in Africa don't come, again, the development of these technologies.


>> MARK CARVELL: Who would like to respond to that.


>>  LUCY:  I'll respond to it.  All our recommendations would be the development, we are aware AI is and other emerging technologies are not here to harm us.  Some of the challenges we are facing in Africa and the globe, so our solutions and our recommendations will be based to ensure while we embrace these technologies, while we accept them in our continent and the globe at large, at the same time, development and companies that bring along these developments and technologies are well aware that data protection is the key issue that should be addressed and to ensure privacy is also a concern that when they are developing these technologies, they have it in mind and having to come back and resolve these issues, and a challenge.  Thank you.


>> MARK CARVELL: Okay, thank you, Lucy.  I think I'm going to hand back to Mauricia now for any online comments and questions.


>>  MAURICIA:  That sounds good.  I have asked if there are questions and comments from the online audience.  We have not seen any comments or questions as yet.  I would love to congratulate you ladies on a fantastic initiative and just give you the advice of making your blog as colorful and attractive as possible especially since ‑‑ you know how they say people eat their eyes, before you even consume a plate of food, what is on the plate and the way it looks attracts you to it.  Please make sure get an illustrator friend and make your blog catching to the eye and also if you can research the meanings behind colors in marketing, it will really assist you also in being intentional with the colors that you use on your blog, so you communicate the message through the coloring that you intend to do through your initiative itself.  So that is just another platform to also communicate your intent.  All right.  On that note, I would like to move on swiftly to our next presenters, and they are ‑‑ well, actually it's going to be one of them speaking.  His name is Izaan.  We have seen him a couple of times earlier in the session.  So without further ado, Izaan, if you can open your microphone and get ready, I'm about to share your presentation and the floor is yours.


>>  IZAAN:  Thank you, Mauricia, I want to confirm everyone can hear me.


>>  MAURICIA:  Yes, we can hear you.


>>  IZAAN:  Thank you, Mauricia and thank you to the Internet Society and it's really difficult coming after a lot of really interesting presentations, but good morning, good afternoon, good evening to everyone, I'm grateful for the opportunity to present.  What effectively is two initiatives that have been effectively emerge because they center around the same theme of internet fragmentation.  Internet fragmentation and digital sovereignty has been the cause celebre in the internet community the past couple of years primarily because of the fact it goes against the very grain of what the interpret is meant to be, this open, interoperable network where everyone can sort of manifest digital freedoms, there are two ways myself as well as one of my colleagues, Megan, who I believe is also present over here have decided to tackle this problem.  So what I will do, I'll present both of the initiatives in sequence and talk about the synergies that result from both of them.  Following on from what Mauricia said about feasting with the eyes, my initiative is titled visualizing this splinternet, which is meant to be a data visualization project and open source collaborative research tool for academics, policy makers, researchers and so on to be able to showcase the current state of internet fragmentation and digital sovereignty that takes place at a global level as well as having an underlying database people can contribute to that shows what the effects of different laws and initiatives are and also contain has a methodology to quantity foot those effects in terms of how much fragmentary potential they have.  There are many, many initiatives coming out from established institutions, for example we have the policy network on internet fragmentation at the IGF, a presentation of which will be held tomorrow, I believe.


We have the Internet Society's current consultation that recently ended on the issue of digital sovereignty.  So I felt there was a need to have a tool that could allow individuals to not only contribute, so that we could have a global view, but also to be able to very quickly understand the impact of these initiatives at a visual level so looking at things like maps, charts and so on.  Move to the next slide, please.


So based on the policy network on internet fragmentation, as well as other initiatives that have come out, I decided to tackle the issue of internet fragmentation in two ways, looking at what I perceived to bey internet layer, the technical infrastructure and the application layer.  I decided to do this using six different topics for which areas could possibly be fragmented so we could get more researchers come in for different specialisms so they can contribute to whether a particular law or rule or new policy proposal for a specific area they might be an expert in, how much that might contribute to fragmentation.  As you can see, these are open for discussion, and I'm very happy to hear your views on this, these follow along the topics of infrastructure and connectivity.  We are looking at things like shutdowns, looking at accessibility.


Then we are also looking at technical standards and issues, looking at things like potentially IPV 6.  Any potential new proposals in terms of trying to regulate the standards behind the internet.


Following on from that, we have the application layer, things like speech and misinformation and what fragmentary potential local laws might have.  We have digital economy, things like the digital services act and additional markets act that came out from the EU, privacy and data protection that might lead to things like dote localization.  Online harms and data safety rules.


In terms of the deliverables, I intend to have a GitHub repository that contains the repository of all the visualizations I intend to create and have a working paper to describe the methodology of how we want to evaluate how fragmentary each of the potential proposals might be and a web page that showcases all of these, you have charts and graphs and so on.


Next slide, please.


So there are challenges and opportunities to this, I'm not going to be backing away from them.  The first thing and the reason I wanted to present this to the IGF is because we want to build a motivated and sustainable community to keep this project going.  Given that sometimes it can be very hard for open source projects to maintain that momentum.


Hopefully we want to be able to introduce this to a bunch of different organizations and initiatives to see if there's any potential for collaboration and research, given the utility of this tool for policy making and for advocacy for having a united internet.


There are potential overlaps with other initiatives, by my understanding freedom on the net has also very, very similar criteria for evaluating fragmentation.  But they are much more broadly focused on the state of digital rights overall.


Move to the next slide, sorry.  And I also want to present Megan's paper.  She intends to research the internet fragmentation and digital sovereignty issues in Africa.  Can we move to the next slide, please.


I think it's a very important thing she's doing where there's a lot of synergy with things I'm trying to do.  She's trying to form the foundation for the research I'm going to be doing and for many other researchers as well.  Internet fragmentation have been pitted as a western versus Chinese internet model issue where you have things like freedom and more Milt lateral models and focuses on more control over network flows.  And there is a term for all of the countries that haven't really fallen into one of those categories called digital zirs and most of them happen to be in Africa.  I think this is a very important piece of scholarship that Megan will be contributing to understand how African countries will be understanding the issue of internet fragmentation and digital sovereignty and looking at their multi-lateral objectives within the broader scope of internet governance and intends to use the Internet Society's tools, internet impact assessments to identify the impacts of those initiatives.  Her deliverable will be a research paper output.  I have no doubt this will lead to further collaboration between myself and her in the future.  I believe she's present in today's meeting.  Hopefully there should be a chance for her to address any specific questions.  I look forward to your questions as well.  Thank you so much for the time.


>>  MAURICIA:  Exquisitely presented, Izaan.  Thank you so much for that.  Without further ado, Mr. Mark Carvell, any questions or comments from the onsite participants.


>> MARK CARVELL: Hey, Mauricia, thanks, Izaan, that's such a hugely relevant high profile issue right now that your initiative is relating to.  Looking around the room for reactions, questions.  Anybody want to raise their hand?  Please, yes, on the left there, thank you.


>> AUDIENCE MEMBER: Thank you once again for giving me the floor.  I would like to share my appreciation of this initiative, and I see that it's really comprehensive approach that is based on the scientific research but wants to make it accessible for the bigger audience.  Indeed, there is a challenge of overlapping with other initiatives, but at the same time I would like to point out that if you are focusing on the policy discussions and on the policy making in the area and governmental driven like fragmentation, we also should take into account that sometimes the fragmentation is driven by the private companies and it's interesting whether you're going to take that into account in some way in this initiative or you're focusing only on the like this digital sovereignty and states, thank you.


>>  IZAAN:  That's a very interesting question thank you for posing it.  Most of the time in my opinion, the mandated kinds of fragmentation that exist are driven by public sector and intergovernmental and governmental initiatives.  That's something I haven't taken into account for in this project.  Also because visualizing it and collecting the data for those kinds of initiatives can be quite difficult given they are very subjective and effects can be felt in very different ways, as opposed to those differently measurable like looking at laws and things that can be proposed.  It is very important to note, and I definitely agree that the private sector can also be a very big source of internet fragmentation.  But from my understanding, the nature of my approach would be looking at it from a top‑down perspective rather than something that's bottom up, driven by the initiatives of private sector initiatives as opposed to something mandated on them.


I'll leave to it Megan to also answer that question, because I'm not sure if that's something she's introducing in her research paper or not.  I definitely appreciate the question.  If you believe that there is a way for us to include that within the scope of what we're trying to do, by all means, please reach out to us, I appreciate the question, thank you.


>>  MEGAN:  Thank you, Izaan.  Thank you for the question.  Just as Izaan had mentioned, I had not considered the ‑‑ that perspective of private companies having an impact on internet fragmentation, but it is something that we definitely consider in my research output, and in Africa, I think it's an element that needs to be considered perhaps from Chinese entities which are supporting Africa's digital infrastructure, perhaps there is definitely input I would consider in internet ‑‑ in the discussion of internet fragmentation on the internet in Africa, thank you.


>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you, Megan.  Any final quick question from the room?  Or comment?  I don't see any hands.  Okay.  Mauricia ‑‑ one quick question, sorry.  Just slipped in there.  Okay, please go ahead, introduce yourself and please be short.  Thank you.


>> AUDIENCE MEMBER: Okay.  I'll refrain ‑‑ internet security answer.  Mine is about conceptual clarity to capture the essence.  What does this mean?  Internet multilateralism, I think it's intermingled with social ‑‑ it is the internet governance aspect.  So would you brief a little bit about it, please.  Thank you.


>>  IZAAN:  I'm not sure if I fully caught the question.  Are you talking about multilateralism.


>> AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, of course.


>>  IZAAN:  So multilateralism would be intergovernmental objectives where you don't have other stakeholders involved in the decision‑making process that has had a top‑down approach.  I agree there's a lot of different ways to interpret the issue, and there are different terminologies thrown around, so the point of this Collaborative Leadership Exchange was to understand and gain insights from yourselves to think about how we can more clearly and conceptually define all of these terms.  I think we intend to definitely capture initiatives in international organizations so things like the ITU and U.N. were generally and do have an impact on the fragmentation of the internet and nations having more control over internet infrastructure or the user experience of the internet in their regions that might affect the overall openness of the internet.  Multilateralism in our understanding of the term is focusing on those sorts of initiatives, I hope that answers your question.


>> MARK CARVELL: I think that was a very comprehensive and informative response, thanks.  So Mauricia back to you, I think, for online reactions and questions.


>>  MAURICIA:  Thank you so much, Mark, I really appreciate that.  Why I have asked in the comment section if there are any questions or feedback points from the online audience.  Until now, I've not received any just yet.  But once again, Izaan and Megan, fantastic, fantastic work that you have put forward and to echo what Mr. Mark Carvell earlier shared when you were done presenting, Izaan, is the relevance of your initiative in this time.  Please, as you have started your collaboration with the Internet Society, I would encourage you to continue to leverage on this resource.  It will really help you with the visibility of your initiative and also ensure that it is sustainable in the years to come.  I do see it's expanding quite a bit.  I would love for you to continue staying on the mark and let it ‑‑ I would love to see this being the first research output of many from the two of you, and as your collaboration continues, I do wish you the best to flourish and more scholars, more people at ground level continue to hear about your work as well.  Fantastic, fantastic presentation, well done.  Thank you so much.


>>  IZAAN:  I appreciate everyone's comments and questions on this, this is a collaborative project, please feel free to reach out to myself and Megan.  The success is very heavily dependent on all of your contributions, thank you.


>>  MAURICIA:  On that wonderful note, I would love to keep this exchange going.  We have one more team presenting before we go on our five‑minute body break.  Without further ado, Mr. Ochieng, we would love to hear your amazing voice.


>>  MAURICIA:  We can see you and not hear you yet.  Not yet. 


>>  OCHIENG:  Can you hear me?  Good afternoon, good evening, everyone.  My name is Ochieng.  I'm from Kenya.  We are in collaboration with a good friend of mine.  I will first take a moment to pass regards and appreciation to our mentors., Hambrel for wonderful contributions towards our project.


So in this initiative project is a model of two initiative projects, one from myself and the other from Cynthia.  Basically my initiative project was which form the totality of our project proclaiming the promise of the internet.  Basically which is assessing confidence of the internet, the areas of internet governance, which was basically on the access to internet and the necessary infrastructure representing local content, inclusive, multistakeholders approach.  Putting people at the heart of the agenda, privacy and data protection and security.  Which basically was looking at the various rights that, you know, as we know in ‑‑ the internet ‑‑ it has turned out to be the heartbeat of the digital economy.  For that, as much as we are talking about accessibility, to everyone on the internet, we must assure we put people at the heart of the agenda, then further, I was looking at the internet, while Cynthia's project, she was looking at the indigenous people rights to digital inclusivity and digital economies.


The two initiative projects, and you came up with one initiative project, which is enhancing internet governance in Kenya and Africa, and the world at large.


So basically, we know that the internet has become the heart of the digital economy, and it is ‑‑ it is not only a tool of communication, but it has become part of our daily lifestyle, and the basic human rights to the ensure open, safe and free internet accessibility, just like water and electricity, internet not only needs to be protected, but we need to ensure we promote digital divide among us for communities in our localities.


So our project will be research paper we'll be looking at accessing various community networks to ensure that we have connectivity and looking at ‑‑ because we noted that in Kenya mostly, connectivity to the internet is basically among those people who are living in certain areas.  Focusing our energies towards assessing how and ensuring there is internet connectivity to these marginalized in the country and Africa at large.


Also looking at inclusivity.  The public participation, looking at multistakeholders approach of internet governance.  How does various stakeholders play in ensuring these marginalized communities are able to access internet and able to voice themselves out and how digital path, which is also protected by ensuring that ‑‑ which brings me to the next purpose of the initiative project, which will be looking at digital rights, digital literacy and ensuring that we promote content creation to these marginalized persons and communities.  As stated earlier, the project will be focusing people at the same time.


By ensuring that we protect the digital rights, freedom of expression, freedom of speech and ensuring there is always security as much as we are pushing for connectivity that is free, safe and open to everyone, we are also ensuring your data, as you leave your digital prints online, make sure your data is secure, and away from any sort of security breach.


That main focus will be testing some of the community networks in Kenya and in the country.  Our next slide, please, Mauricia.


Finally, as stated, the initiative project is about starting the conversation and ensuring that we proclaim that very promise that the internet has given us, the promise of connectivity to everyone.  A connection that is open, safe and that calls for inclusivity to everyone, not only those in urban areas, but wherever you are.


In that, the project will be best in the research paper, we'll be looking at those various areas, and in the end, we shall be reporting ‑‑ we shall be reporting the research paper in a way that we'll have ‑‑ that will be discussed in a symposium held later on.  As research comes to life and the symposium will bring all those into life and having a conversation, having a discussion that will assure we keep on promoting the internet, governing the internet for safer and clear space for everyone.


With that, I yield the remaining time and call for any questions, any comments from the members.


Thank you.


>>  MAURICIA:  Thank you so much, Ochieng, that was so well presented.  Over to you, Mr. Mark Carvell, any onsite questions or comments.


>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you Mauricia, I'm looking around the room for any raised hands.  Questions, comments.  Feedback?


No.  I think they're all anxious to go for the break, actually.  Okay.  All right, Mauricia, I don't see any raised hands here, online, maybe.


>>  MAURICIA:  We do not have questions yet, we do have quite a few comments in the comment section.  Lots of congratulations coming through for the amazing presentations for you, Ochieng, for the teams that have gone before you, as well.  Then, yes, Fred also said great presentation so far, from all of you ambassadors.  Actually he's also a former ambassador himself.  Again, some more from Omar as well, great presentations to you all.  So lots of congratulatory wishes and sentiments coming from the online audience, that is for sure.  I just have one quick question for you, Ochieng.  You mentioned that ‑‑ I know that you will have a research output, right?  But you mentioned that you would be advocating for sharing of digital literacy content.  I would imagine that when you do encourage this, that there will be content creators approaching you and Cynthia to share their content and do you have a contingency plan around this?  Have you established any collaborations?  What is your plan for those types of feedbacks that could come your way.


>>  OCHIENG:  We will be assessing in the country and community networks in the country.  So in terms of contingency on where to gather content, these community networks that let us talk about internet.  The network, which is the ‑‑ through these ‑‑ sorry, through this internet, I was able now to start my journey from the internet governance ambassador, which led me here.  So I think through accessing such, that is where we'll be able to be getting this digital consent because the community networks work with people, work with people on the ground.  So for us, it will be a platform to, you know, pursue this.


>>  MAURICIA:  I hear your feedback, I acknowledge it.  Thank you so much for giving me your answer.  But I was also wondering, for your lay content creators, not your official ‑‑ I know that's an official body, I'm talking about your content creator on the street, if they come to you and say I've created content on digital literacy and I'm looking for visibility and I see you're advocating and encouraging for the creation of my content, can you connect me?  Do you have a system in place to assist these kinds of voices coming to you from your community.


>>  OCHIENG:  For now, we do not have.  Maybe the same come out through the research paper, as a way maybe also through during the symposium, we are able to voice those ‑‑ those content and ‑‑ yeah.


>>  MAURICIA: Thank you. That answers my question, don't worry. Thank you so much for your response.  And on that note, I will not keep anyone in the room or onsite any longer.  Thank you so much, Mr. Ochieng, for your presentation, we are ready for that much needed body break.


Mr. Tracy is saying in the comments, I just want to bring some attention to, that this was very thoughtful and well researched, to everyone who has presented thus far, and he would just like to also share his sentiments of congratulations to each and every one of you who have presented, I'm sure the presentations to come will not disappoint because we know that we have quality in the room.  Without further ado, please feel free to take your body break, we will be taking a break for the next five minutes.  Stretch your legs, get yourself refreshed.  I would like to give you the time, but since we are all in different time zones, I'll say please calculate five minutes from now and kindly be back in the room.  See you in five.


>> MARK CARVELL: Those in the room, that means 23 minutes to 4:00.


Thank you.


  [ break taken ]


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: For those onsite, Mr. Mark, are we ready to kick off the second half?  Please give me an indication?  Oh, you're still muted.  So sorry.  We can't hear you.


>> MARK CARVELL: Okay.  We'll have the echo again.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Yeah, a little bit.


>> MARK CARVELL: Can you hear me now.




>> MARK CARVELL: Okay.  There are a lot of empty seats here, particularly on one side.  I don't know where they are.  Maybe they're outside.  I'll quickly shout we are starting again, okay, and come back in.


All right.




>> MARK CARVELL: I'm back, I broadcast the message.  Hopefully it will attract people back into the room.  A few people are coming back in.  I think you can probably start in the next minute or so, actually.  But they got the message we are starting, okay.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Thank you so much.


I just want to check with our ‑‑ is everything all right, your mic working, hello, hello.  Let's test your mic.


You are.


>> Stuck a, do you hear me.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: I can hear you now.  Let me just see if it's your volume or mine.  Do you mind speaking one more time?


>> Hello.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Yes, perfect, thank you, no, it was my volume.  Fantastic.  Okay.  I'm getting your presentation ready, and as soon as you see the screen pop up, you can get started really and then as Mr. Mark is busy getting everybody back in the room, everyone can also just relax back in, but in the spirit of keeping time, we are going to move along.  And involve everyone as they come.  All right.  We wish you the best for your presentation, I will share my screen shortly.


I hope you can see my screen, I'm about to present.


>>  AREVIK:  .


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Can I have an indication if my screen is showing.  Can you see the presentation.


>>  AREVIK:  Yes, it's okay.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: The floor is yours, Arevik.


>>  AREVIK:  Thank you for the opportunity to present my project.  Sorry for my voice, I have some problems, I will try to do my best.  Let me introduce briefly myself.  I'm Arevik Martirosyan.  Head of the youth educational and scientific project international information security school, and this will answer the question of why I had this particular idea.  So dear Mauricia, can you please ‑‑ the next slide, please.


Okay.  Thank you.  So my idea is to conduct scientific study on internet and sustainable development goals, publishing the results and present them during an online "Roundtable" on the topic of the concept of systemability.  I want to do some research on how internet can positively influence achievement of each SDG through a review of specific practices.  The project has two main purposes.  And I think that it's ‑‑ no, yes, it's okay, this slide.  So the project has two main purposes.  The first one is to contribute to the study of the relations between the internet and sustainable development goals, by first providing that internet can positively influence achievement of each SDG.  Secondly, to demonstrate practical experience of the positive impact of the internet on achievement of the SDGs.


So the second purpose is to develop scientific discourse on the topic.


The next slide, please.


Okay.  Speaking about the objectives, they for the next, explore the interaction between the internet and SDGs, find patterns of the influence of the internet on the achievement of the SDGs, and then identify the positive impact of the internet on the achievement of the SDGs.  Conduct an analysis of significant initiatives in this area and to put forward general recommendations based on this research.


So what I want to see as outputs in the framework of the proper sample.  One, I would like to explore how the internet can positively impact the achievement of each Sustainable Development Goals pin also see an opportunity to achieve the following results on the second purpose.


To draw attention to the topic, to stimulate discussion during the online round table on the topic, ICT and the topic of sustainability, to make a publication of an online collection of round table speeches/main points of discussion, and finally, expand the research base and scientific discourse.


So that's briefly the presentation of my project, and I would like to echo the words an issue that is the product manager of the sustainable development solution network for Russia, I believe in the slogan I believe in contributing the achievement of sustainable development goals through science, so thank you very much and I'm open for your questions.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Very well said, thank you, Arevik for a fantastic presentation.  There are any comments, any feedback points onsite.  Over to you, Mr. Mark.


>> MARK CARVELL: Mauricia.  Thank you, Arevik, another highly real haven't piece of research work as the time ticks away on the 2030 agenda and it's so relevant, of course, to the global digital compact objectives as well.


So any points, questions?  Feedback from people in the room?  I'm looking around the room.


People like Tracy, highly relevant for you, I would have thought.  Any comment?  No?


No, I don't see anybody raising their hand at the moment, Mauricia, back to you.  For online reactions.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Thank you so much.  Hopefully there will be some sparks of ideas as the session continues on.  I do have a few congratulatory sentiments coming through on my comment section, and one of your fellow ambassadors, also said a comment ‑‑ let me just go down, let me see, it's actually Djim, says congratulations for your presentation.  What are your expectations at the end of this project?  And how do you plan to use the results.


>>  AREVIK:  So thousand very much for the question.  So as I mentioned, I think that it will be a great opportunity to involve the young generation to do some research on the issue of sustainable development and internet, and as a result, we can publish an online collection of scientific articles on the issue and then present them during the round table that can be international, of course, and so ‑‑ or hybrid format.  By this, we can develop scientific discourse on the issue and to draw attention to it.  I think something like this, thank you very much..


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Thank you so much, Arevik for sharing, I hope that answered your question, Djim.  Mr. Fred, please, feel free, the floor is yours.


>>  FRED:  Yeah.  Hi, everyone.  Good morning, good afternoon.  Good evening, wherever you are.  So I just want to add something to what's all been said.  Because I think this is very good initiative, and the thought that the clock is ticking, and the world is struggling as to how to be able to achieve Sustainable Development Goals and now everyone is aware the internet is essential.  And so as we are looking at Sustainable Development Goals, I think as you are looking at this form, a research point of view, we should be looking at people who actually implement this kind of Sustainable Development Goals in terms of their education, in terms of poverty reduction through implementation options that they do, so that you are able to blend the internet aspect of it to this initiative that these organizations are already involved in.  So your research would be able to him pact society very well, if not I'm afraid this might turn into a white paper, which is very good, but in terms of implementation, if you do not get stakeholders or organizations to partner to work together with ‑‑ it might become very difficult for you to achieve it in real life.  So I would be very excited to see that this initiative actually comes to life not just in paper, because in paper we actually hide a lot of knowledge, but people don't see them or look at them to read, thank you.


>>  AREVIK:  Thank you very much for your comment.  We will take it into account and to make sure, I will send invitation to ambassadors to join my project.  Thank you very much.


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>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: AS SOON AS YOU GRADUATE:  You would have the opportunity to become part of the alumni network that we have here at the Internet Society and so you would have access to all of the previous fellows that have graduated from programs before you and I would encourage collaboration, especially because of the relevance globally when it comes to your project, Arevik, that once you join the alumni network that wow would reach out to your fellow alums and that you would leverage on their connections, on their networks in order to increase the visibility of your work, and also perhaps enhance the impact there of.  Just a bit of encouragement from my side.


Are there any questions with Barbara to Arevik's initiative still in the room or onsite?  If not ‑‑ yes, we do have a feedback point or question from Mr. Mark Carvell with regards to this initiative mentioned earlier.  Theorose, I believe that's you.  Mr. Mark, over to your question.


>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you, Arevik, my question is really generally, if there was any particular focus amongst the roster of SDG issues on small island developing states, whether ‑‑ which face particular challenges, of course, because of the size of their communities, remoteness, geographically and so on.  Have you looked at those particular issues as part of the initiative or are you planning to do so in the future.


>>  AREVIK:  Thank you very much for your comment.  It is just a draft project.  I think your idea, it's great, and I will think about it, of course, and I will try to do it inclusive and comprehensive project.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Perfectly said, thank you so much, Arevik.  Bringing me back to the point of collaboration will be key for you here.  You have a very big initiative on your hands, but with many more, you can definitely increase the impact of your work.  So don't hold back from reaching out to as many networks as possible to support you in this initiative and to make it the best possible version of what can come out of your work, I wish you all of the best.  Moving on to our next presentation.  We do have a group of lovely young ambassadors that would love to share, but it would only be one of their team members that will be speaking today.  I'm sure the others would engage more once it comes to the exchange part of our discussion today.  Without further ado, Mr. Lenin, can I have you open your mic so I can hear your lovely voice.


>>  LENIN:  Can you hear me.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: I am going to now share my screen and share your presentation and the floor is yours.


>>  NICHOLAS:  Greetings, everybody, my name is Lenin, I'm in a group with Madiya, Paul and Selby.  We are represented by Ghana, Kenya, and the tagline the next gen project, the next generation project.  By the former title of our project is education of secondary and tertiary students on internet governance and related concepts, an intra‑African collaboration.


So in this presentation, I'll be taking you through why there's a need for our project, what our objectives are in pursuing this project and how we intend to execute the project.  And so on why there's need for our project Mauricia, can you move to the next slide.


Why the need for the project, we have two principal reasons, our first reason is that our group observed, as young Africans, that the youth in our countries are getting exposed to internet governance with their contemporaries in other countries and out of the five of us, four of us Head of Internet governance and what it is for the first time of tertiary education.


In the course of being part of the Internet Society's youth ambassador fellowship, we have met mentors from other countries that are currently in tertiary but have been in the ecosystem for about three to four years, which means that they've had the opportunity to build their capacity in the internet governance space.  We are much longer, even though they are relatively younger.


So we decided that to bridge this gap, there was need to focus and target senior high school and tertiary students with internet governance education in order to get them and introduce them into the ecosystem.


Our second reason for pursuing this project is that the internet has become ubiquitous among the younger generation.  Many people use it, and yet there's a conspicuous absence of internet education or digital education from our academic crick la.


It was interesting to find out at the youth Summit this morning that it was not just within our African countries this problem exists.  The Asia‑Pacific region wanted it to be included as early as primary school.  They get to know about it way too late.  For these two reasons, we decided that our project is going to target senior high school and tertiary students to introduce them to internet governance and also educate them on digital rights related to the use of the internet and the risks associated and how to safely use the internet.  Mauricia, the next slide, please.


So then, what are objectives in pursuing this project.  Our first objective is to introduce tertiary and secondary students to internet governance and concepts such as multistakeholders, to encourage, first of all the involvement in youth tracks and also educate them on the opportunities available for them to grow within the ecosystem so that they can build the capacity for a longer term and contribute more to the space as opposed to now where they come in later and soon they have to transition into the adult room.


Our second objective is also to create awareness over the risk associated with internet use, particularly relating to privacy implications and also help our younger siblings in tertiary and secondary schools to practice safe use of the internet and also know their rights associated with the use of these internet platforms.


But more importantly, and significantly, inconsistency with the Internet Society's mission, we hope to also raise advocates among these young persons in secondary and tertiary institutions.  Just as we got to know about internet governance and the ecosystem through friends already in the system, we believe that if we introduce the secondary and tertiary students to these concepts early enough, they can also educate and advocate and spread the knowledge they have gained to their friends, then together we can raise a generation that is more conscious and aware of internet governance and safe use.


That brings me to my final point of how are we going to execute this project?  For purposes of execution, we are doing two things, first of all, one is going to be online and the second is going to be offline.


Our online seeks to host a webinar, in partnership with known internet government entities.


So that these entities can educate and introduce their work through the secondary and tertiary students participated from across these four countries.


Now we are partnering with these entities so they can introduce them to the volunteering opportunities available for them to participate and grow and the various organizations within the internet governance ecosystem.  Our partnership is to leverage the reach that these entities currently have in engaging younger people within the ecosystem.  So that it is not just young students from these four African countries participating in the online webinar, but also it would be open to the public so that already users of these platforms who already know the organizations for the work that they do can have the benefit of what we will be putting up there.


But our offline project is intended to be carried out in the respective countries of the four jurisdictions involved, Ghana, Rwanda, Gambia and Kenya.  We hope in terms of the physical and the offline project to make it an ISOC driven project and intend to partner with the Internet Society local chapters and also importantly the school of internet governance in our various jurisdictions.


It is our belief that if we are able to execute the physical project in partnership with ISOC, it protects the longevity of the project because it can become a project driven by the local Internet Society chapter since every year we have new students come into our various institutions and so every year we would have a new set of young people to educate and introduce to our internet governance.


But what is also good, each of us within the group have experience with youth groups in our various countries and intend to leverage on that experience and the youth organizations that work in our countries to make this dream a reality.


Ultimately we believe that since the young people, particularly secondary and tertiary students are recognized as the next internet experts and leaders, taking their interest early would make it good for them to participate in governance.  Even if they don't participate in the formal internet governance space, if we get them the knowledge that they need, they can even as users still make choices that would contribute to an ethical and resilient and safe internet.  We hope next year we will see some of our participants from these workshops participate in the IGF as testimony of the growth that is taking education to young persons can do in terms of bringing them into the ecosystem.  We are glad to seek any support, partnerships, directions and contributions and we are open for further engagement to make this project a reality.  Thank you very much.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: And thank you for a fantastic presentation.  Well done.  Are there any comments on site, any questions on site, Mr. Mark.


>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you, Mauricia, and thank you Lenin for a very clear set of objectives and deliverables, getting the next generation of people into the world of internet governance and understanding some of the key issues.  Then, as you say, becoming part of those debates at future IGF events and elsewhere.


I see yes a hand raised on the left.  First of all, Tracy, if you'd like to go ahead, quickly remind us of your credentials and then let's hear your question, thank you.


>>  TRACY:  Hi, I'm Tracy Hackshaw, I actually was responsible for some of this cohort's preparation for this IGF.  So I think I'll stop there.


So this is a very good presentation, thank you.  I just want to suggest a couple potential partners, they are being done by a group called the apgw on the stop think net, and they have a series of materials that have been published that have already been validated and utilized in multiple languages.  Stop, think and internet.  That tend to be useful for younger people as well as general users.


One of the things you tend to find is that with this kind of work, you may think if you are doing it that it's coming from a position of knowledge, but what we have found in doing this, many younger people don't have the ability to absorb the nuances of these issues.  So while you may be just saying protect yourself and do these things, do these things, et cetera, the messaging is to be done in a certain way, and there are groups that figure this out.  So child safety protection groups, stop, think connect, so I think before you go out and do this project, you may want to reach out to those groups as well as ISOC to get the messaging right.  So you don't have a situation where you think you're doing the right thing, but the message was above their heads or goes awry, I want to make met suggestion.  I've seen some of those projects happen and people come, and they sit and listen and continue doing the same things.  Because you haven't really gotten the message across.


Reach out to the groups that have done this, they've crafted that in a certain way to probably make it more able to be absorbed by younger people.  Thanks.


>> MARK CARVELL: Lenin, did you want to react to those suggestions.


>>  LENIN:  I wanted to thank Tracy for those suggestions, we have noted those groups and will reach out to them and get it right.  Thank you.


>> MARK CARVELL: I think I saw another hand on this side.  Okay.


>> AUDIENCE MEMBER: Thank you, and just ‑‑ I have a question, then a contribution, I'm just going to start with a contribution, Tracy has said, I heard you mention ISOC, and the rest, you have done an educational training, not seen you mention any institution.  Educational institution, and I think that you should focus on that.  Most of the times really, the nontechnical community is left behind.  I'm speaking to that because I'm from the nontechnical community, and I feel like any time there's such training, you're focusing on institutions that already teach technical courses, leaving nontechnical people.  For example, I would want you to extend your reach to media institutions, we are important and want to be brought into the training and ecosystem.  Then again, I'm glad you mentioned Ghana as well, because from ISOC, Ghana chapter we are currently running ISOC messaging, which is similar to the program you are doing.  We did it last year.  This year, we hope to do that as well.


You should reach out to us so you could follow up onto that, so we pick it up on there.


Now to my question shortly.  I would want to find out, what is she long‑term goal of this.  As Tracy said, the programs, the project happened, but after ‑‑ do you have plan of keeping ‑‑ in terms of ‑‑ I mean, having those institutions, do you want to form a club?  What exactly are you going to do so it's not one‑time educational web or a continuous thing for people to come up to you, if that is clear to you.


>> I'm part of this team.  We mainly focus on internet governance.  I'll answer the question from one to another.  A side partner, agencies like, rights program, Internet Society foundation, also been programmed for.  IGF, basically from the local level to global level.  ICANN.  We reach out to internet governance, they run a full training on internet governance.  We are trying to partner the universities and the high schools, they are the main focus.  Why are we doing that.  The people from the universities are coming out of school.  When they come out of school, they are joining the working force within the ecosystem and need to understand the best practices of internet governance, where they can reach out in their various employed institutions, so we are targeting that.  We wanted to also make it a program we may run every year for similar schools.


We are trying to focus on the school section, some do access to train people on that, with partner agencies, when we are done we have various internet governance class, we will move the students to that.  We also want to do this to achieve a mentorship for people who are already in the ecosystem.  So we can connect to them.  What I am doing, since I've been into IGF, I've picked 10 to 20 people I am training for the past six months, I send them ISOC links to register, send them IGF ‑‑ they are not here, but joining remotely to learn our view of it.  Some join to learn, there are some courses online that Internet Society is running, ICANN is running for free, they can learn that.  Some of them are investments, we want to close that gap that youth understand the technical in the ecosystem structure.  We want to involve the media too as well, because they also go out aloud on that.  Last Friday I was on the media on a tv station to talk about internet governance and what is happening.  In Addis Ababa.  Now in terms of the team, lowering down to the basic high school level, we must also let them understand what is going on internet.  Basically people want to know what internet is really about.  Basically we try to assess that.  If I have answered your question, if there's any other question left, I can answer that.  Thank you very much.


>> MARK CARVELL: Okay, Mauricia, I don't see any more hands in the room.  So back to you for online reactions.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Thank you so much.  And thank you for the fantastic contributions from the onsite participants.  I would encourage our team of stars to please take into account everything that has been shared with you, you are working with a critical group of people, being our secondary and tertiary institutions, learners and students.  We have to make she distinction, it's very important because students do not want to be referred to as learners.


I do have a comment from ariel, he said hi, wonderful presentation on a key issue such as digital literacy.  Question ‑‑ my question that can be for a next step of the initiative.  Do you plan to engage in person with young people?


>>  LENIN:  Thank you very much.  I think that is the offline face of the of the project we have executed.  We hope to bring the students in person with their partners in education.  Yes, it is not just online hosting where we just talk to them, Butts we are hoping to interface with them through the offline.  Which for starters is Ghana, Rwanda, Gambia and Kenya.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: He specifically asked regarding teachers as well and partners.


>>  LENIN:  So what happens when it comes to the engagement, even though the target of the student, mostly to be able to get access to the student, most of the educational institutions, you have to go through the teachers or their institutions.  So the teachers present perhaps may be learning for their own benefit, but they would be the Shepherds of the students.  Ultimately, this is she students themselves who we are reaching out to them.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: I hope that answers your question, ariel, because he was really wanting to kind of drive in also that ‑‑ the teachers and the schools would be fantastic partners for you in your initiative.  So definitely be aware of that.


I had some questions as well, but for the sake of time, we will move on to the next presentation.  And should time allow us at the end, we would be able to share those, but I did share a link as well to our Google document in the chat and I will reshare it again.  You get an idea, spark or want to ask any of our ambassadors a question, you would be able to click on the link for the Google document and post your question or comment so we can also make sure that gets through to our ambassadors.


Without further ado, we have ‑‑ Ariel is not presenting today, his counterpart, Mr. Jason will be the one speaking on behalf of his team.  I just want to make sure, he should be onsite in the room.  Can you please speak, let's hear if you are audible.


>> I can hear you, Mauricia.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: This is fantastic, this is fantastic.  Okay.  I'm going to go to your presentation now.


And then make your slides available to the audience as well.


Let me share my screen.


All right, over to you.


>>  JESSE:  All right, good evening, good morning, grown from wherever you are, I'm Jesse Nathan Kalae.  I'm a Nigerian youth ambassador 2021‑2022.  I have collaboration initiative with my colleague Ariel.  We use capacity and awareness on encryption.  Based on research and public campaigns in Africa and Latin America.  Next slides, please.


So we focus on the use of technology of a particular significance, which is mainly cryptography in the field of ICT.  We realize encryption supports more free expression anonymity, access to information and private communication as well as privacy.  So in this context, we take a scenario from the growing concerns about mass surveillance online, and we look at end to end encryption as one of the key steps for protection.


We realize many organizations and companies have teamed up to promote encryption, and we have this evidenced from the global encryption coalition, and ISOC's encryption team among others.


Still in the line of encryption, we do realize that end users do not necessarily know much and understand what end to end encryption implies for them.  Even the applications and different tools they can use to apply this.  So our initiative's main goal is on building the capacity of individuals and entities on encryption, so that individual end users and institutions can understand and decide on how to use online tools, and that they can be able to consider ensuring that proper privacy and protection as well as transparency is applied.  Next slide, please.


Yes.  So our initiative objectives and deliverables, based on creating public awareness, that will encourage institutions to implement a culture of encrypting data in communication, would be realized with a case study, for example, in Uganda where I come from.  A couple of different institutions, especially government and the private sector actually do use encryption.  However, there is no regulatory framework that actually governs encryption policy and laws in Uganda.  This is something that we, for example, intend to see that we ignite within the national information security policy and framework, which is also combined within the national cybersecurity strategy, which is still a draft and not implemented because these are some of the issues actually missing out in the strategy based on encryption.


We also intend to build the capacity for institutions or the general public on encryption.  We do realize that still institutions and the public does hear and know a little bit about encryption, but do not really know how do we apply this in our day‑to‑day lives, how do we apply this within the communication and a data ‑‑ communication channels that we do use on a daily basis.


The other is to offer information on the encryption systems available in each country.  We do realize that in Africa, for example, it's about less than 15 countries in Africa that actually do have encryption policies, and if we cite out Tanzania, Tunisia, so a couple of different countries in Africa do realize that we do not have information when it comes to this particular area.  We only have a wide coverage on different policies that only address the widest scope on cybersecurity.


So we also intend to create a database on available encrypted tools in different countries to be displayed as a map.  My colleague Ariel with will give more highlights on this particular objective.


We intend to develop guidelines for end users and institutions on who to you implement encryption.  A couple of different institutions in government and the private sector do have policies within the organizations.  However, most of these guidelines are never implemented or they do not have data frameworks of how to implement them within their respective institutions.  We intend to organize a public sensitization campaign on encryption through social media campaigns and traditional media.  This is forecasting mainly on digital security and cyber rights specifically.


Next slide, please.


Our study is based on a background from ISOC's action plan of 2022, and then we also look at different stakeholders like the global encryption coalition, also global events handled by the global encryption coalition, the global encryption day.  We look at measuring the internet, look at something coming from the international society pulse and extending encryption.  A couple of different resources that are definitely available for reference on this particular subject that we are talking about, and we will be very grateful to have inputs from you, questions and any kind of collaborative interest that you might want to share with us.  Thank you so much and my colleague, Ariel, will be able to respond to a few questions, I'll chip in as well.  Thank you.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Perfectly said.  Yes, I'm glad to hear that Ariel will be chipping in with possible.  Lovely to always hear your thoughts.  But before we get to that point, Mr. Mark Carvell, are there any comments or feedback points onsite.


>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you, Mauricia, I'm looking for hands being raised around the room.


I don't see any.


I mean I just have a comment that this is from my previous government background, a very important issue, of course, encryption.  And I'm sure your initiative is probably scrutinizing the position of governments and law enforcement agencies and so on.  To help advance a discussion and considerations of the pros and cons of defending encryption from the perspective of governments and law enforcement, but did you want to say a little bit on that?


>> We look at doing more checks and balances to scrutinize systems especially within government because we do realize that from a human rights background, we always have some input mostly targeted within defending the rights of human rights defenders and actors, but also while creating in freedom of expression but respectful.


>> MARK CARVELL: Thanks, okay.  I don't see any hands being raised.  Mauricia, back to you, I think.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Thank you so much.  Same here.  No comments or questions being raised on our comment section of the chat here.  But I do ‑‑ there's actually one from Izaan.  He says ‑‑ just came in, says I echo Mark's comments.  Governments have taken initiatives to reduce the scope of encryption given other aims such as child protection.  What approach would be taken to address their concerns?  So Ariel.


>>  ARIEL:  Well, as mentioned by Jesse, the initiative covers like two types of main goals.  Public awareness campaign.  On the other side, it's a database that basically gets users to understand the options they have to, Yen let's say, ensure they use ‑‑ offer encryption.  In the second part, it's up to the individuals to choose the option, it's more about having the knowledge regarding the first one, the public awareness campaign, we would cover those debates in the material, of course, but, again, it's more about what encryption means and the debates ‑‑ so it's not that concern about the policy, in the sense of what measures government should take, it's more about ensuring that ‑‑ they have knowledge about what encryption means, what are the debates and their opinion, the use of encryption and that an end user can decide whether they want or not use, that offer communication.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: That addresses his concern, thank you so much for that.  Yes.


>>  ARIEL:  Following Alejandra's first comment, we would like to start a conversation with all the attendants.  We would like to create a database to be mapped so end user can understand the options of encryption in their own countries.  The idea is an end user enter the website and understand in the case of his or her country what are the options and the features of all the communication available there.  Some of the availables we consider are the country of each communication tool, the type of tool, messaging app, et cetera, transparency and impact reports, and if the company has any data leaks in the previous month.


So can you think about the relevant you asked to include in such a database.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Fantastic question posed there to our own site and online participants.  I will give our own site participants the opportunity to answer our team first.  Mr. Mark is there anyone in the room ready to respond to Ariel's question on what they would like included in the database.  Just explain.


>> MARK CARVELL: I'm looking around the room, Mauricia.  Is anybody ‑‑ anybody want to have a go an initial comment about the database?  Nope.  Nobody in the room, Mauricia.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Duly noted.  Possibly people still need an opportunity to soak it in and be able to see the possible database or what you have already created in of categories and contribute more comprehensively on what will be added.  We will make all the presentations available.  I will find out from the IGF secretary which platform we need to share that on.


Mr. Izaan, you have a contribution to make.


>>  IZAAN:  Sure.  I just wanted to speak on Ariel's comment.  I think one of the things that definitely needs to be included is the usability of these tools as well.  Quite a lot of times when you're making use of tools that leverage encryption or privacy standards, they involve a bit more than the usual amount of technical capability in order to actually fully make use of them.  You want to think of tools outside the box already making use of encryption versus those tools that require a bit more working on your end to try to make them effective, I guess.  So I think that's something that needs to be reflected on the database to see whether the usability and user friendliness of these tools is something that can be accounted for and other people's experiences of what the key points might be to take into account before you decide to use such a tool.  I hope that makes sense.


>>  ARIEL:  Yes.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Perfect.  Are there any other feedback points for our group from our comments in the online audience?


Going once, going twice?  Any ideas on what you feel would be important for your region or country that should be taken into consideration when it comes to the database that the teams are wonderfully explained to us today?


If all right.  None for now, but I'm sure there will be more coming as everyone has a chance to view your work.


And Ariel has just shared his e‑mail address as well as Jesse's e‑mail address.  If you would like to speak directly with them, I would encourage all of our ambassadors to share contact details as well.  If you ‑‑ anyone in the room, onsite, online, if you would like to directly speak to our ambassadors about their initiatives, support them, we would really encourage this.  So please feel free to reach out to them.




We will move swiftly along so that at the end if there is any allotment of time left, we can take comments and feedback for the overall presentations, anything that might have popped up after people spoke and then time for engagement had passed.  So we might have another opportunity.  So stay tuned, stay tuned indeed.


Without taking any further, I want to check in Vincent, are you in the room?  Can you open your mic, I'd love to hear your voice some Vincent:  Can you hear me.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: I'm going to share my vein and allow you to take the floor.


>>  VINCENT:  Thank you very much.


Hello, everyone.  Good morning, afternoon and evening.  My name is Vincent Okonkwo.  One of the youth ambassadors for 2022.  I'll be presenting on behalf of my group, our initiative which is titled a toolkit for youth participation in global internet governance.  I'll be speaking for about two minutes, Bo Han will be speaking for two minutes and object a minute thereabout for Saba to introduce some new perspective.  Next slide, please.


Okay.  So in terms of what we are hoping to achieve in the initiative, the idea behind the initiative is essentially we understand that a lot of young persons should be participating in internet governance conversations who are not participating.  Youth heavily depend on the internet to learn life skills, create value, participate in communities, they are becoming a larger part of the internet users.  We have to be involved in those conversations that not only affect them but to some extent might affect the direction of their lives going into the future.  No gain saying there's a lot of attempts at youth participation in internet governance in global digital policy conversations.  This is partly due to lack of awareness, the formal requirements for involvement in youth‑driven internet government conversations, differences in opportunities available across regions, language barriers.  Next slide, please.


So following that, we are looking at putting together a toolkit which aligns with the Internet Society's activities for shaping the future of the internet and empowering people to take action as part of the Internet Society action plan.  So my colleague, Bo Han will give information on what a toolkit would cover.


>>  BO:  Okay.  We move to the next slide, please.


Yeah.  So when we talk about a toolkit, there are two purposes for doing this.  The first one is to map existing opportunities, and the second is suggest a new format for attracting the youth to get into the field.  So when we are thinking about these kinds of toolkits, first of all, it's easy to use.  So if the young participants in the internet governance look through our toolkits, he or she will find an easier way to get involved with the whole research and the whole platform, not only for the national level but the global level and the other opportunities for them to develop their skills.


The second one, we try to suggest a new format which is called model IGF, so many students and the young people, they welcome the opportunity to get involved with the regional IGF or the international IGF such a high level kind of events, probably in some schools they can do their own model IGFs.  That's why we have two parts.  The first part is the handbook, the second for a concept paper for the model IGF.  The youth participation toolkits will be multilingual version of the toolkits.  It will be translated into English, Mandarin, saw with heel Lee and French.  We have so many people in this group.  Can we move to the next slide, please.


Yeah.  Next slide, please.


This is the whole structure of the ‑‑ this is the whole structure of the toolkit.  We can see the participants book is the first one, and it will identify the existing parts from the international level, from the regional level, from the academy area and from other areas that can be referred to this.  It talks about the contents have already been talked about.  And maybe some skills the participants, they need to require for them before they attend this kind of activities, and the second part is a concept paper for the model IGF.  We involve with the youth voices, because there are lots of pioneers of the young people who get involved in the internet governance.  So we try to make the interview with them to see what their idea about how to get engaged and what is current problem and how we can make better in the future.  So according to these three parts, we'll put it together and try to make youth IGF guide book for the Ethiopian IGF.  We will welcome the pioneer and what we can call the founder of the Ethiopian youth IGF, Saba, a member of our group to give a very brief introduction for the youth IGF.  Saba, please.


>>  SABA:  Hello everyone, thanks very much.  I'm one of the 2022 ambassadors, my name is Saba.  I'm going to present about the Ethiopian youth IGF.  Regarding different forms of youth engagement in the IGF process, the IGF ‑‑ the IGF secretary has recognized around 34 youth IGF initiatives across the world and it's from the Africa region on that.  This initiatives mainly encourage and involve young people in substantive discussions on internet governance.  However, in my country, Ethiopia, there is no such initiatives that aims to engage the youth in internet governance discussions.  We believe that young people, by themselves, can bring a unique set of skills, experiences and ideas to the table regarding IGF discussions.  The platform is present.  That's why it's very important to have this toolkit in order to start the initiatives that engage, encourage and empower the youth from technological developments in policy discussions.


So the Ethiopian IGF aims to raise awareness and provide a platform, amplify them and contribute to technical and public policy discussions.  So this initiative aims at building a new leaders of internet who are motivated to learn, engage and take actions to strengthen the internet governance policy ecosystem within Ethiopia and beyond.  So the toolkits for youth participation in global internet governance will help in guiding the setting up of the IGF initiative in Ethiopia.  It will serve as a test case for the toolkits and lessons from the ‑‑ from this initiative will be used in fine tuning that toolkit.  Thank you so much.  We are very open for further partnerships and discussions.  If you have any questions, suggestions, you are very welcome.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Fantastic, without wasting any time, Mr. Mark Carvell, any feedback from the onsite participants.


>> MARK CARVELL: Hey, Mauricia, that was a very wide ranging, very interesting presentation.  Looking around the room for any reactions, I see one on the right.  Please go ahead, remind us of your credentials and so on.  Thank you.


>> Sharma:  I want to ask my colleagues have ‑‑ how can we access this toolkit as a developer where there are some are of us can contribute to this initiative here in Ethiopia, and how can we access the toolkit available in Ethiopia, thank you.


>> We will always welcome any contribution to the development of this toolkit.  We will start preparing it first as a group within the youth ambassador program and will further publish the first draft for the consultations for additional contributions from the regions and make sure to communicate it as widely as possible, thank you.


>> MARK CARVELL: Any other quick comments?


Points from the room?


I don't.


>> AUDIENCE MEMBER: I just add on behalf of group, you can send e‑mails if you would like to get involved in the initial draft.  Send e‑mails and we would respond to you, our e‑mails are on the presentation.


>> MARK CARVELL: Of course, that applies to all the presentations, I'm sure a lot of people will be taking away a lot of very useful information and be thinking of points to raise subsequently.  No other hands in the room, Mauricia.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Thank you so much.  Thank you so much, Mr. Mark, I'll grab that mic and quickly mention, because I know we must be aware of time, and we have one more presentation to go to the end of ‑‑ to conclude actually this wonderful engagement we've had today.  But just to pay attention to the comments that has been shared for the team.  One of your fellow ambassadors, the idea of a model IGF in schools is really thoughtful.  Very thoughtful initiative and he acknowledges that.  Fantastic contribution, Paul.


I believe one additional comment.  Let me double‑check.  From Izaan, he says I agree as well with Paul, I believe, he said plus one to model IGF, it is a great way to introduce the concept.


So everyone is behind you and supporting you in your initiative, Bo and team.  We also look forward to seeing what will come next year when they launch the Ethiopia IGF ‑‑ youth IGF takes place and when the toolkit becomes available to the public.  So many hands are ready to grab it, so we wish you all the best in your developmental process and in your working process going forward and trust that there is a very high interest in the work you are doing so please remain committed, stay steadfast and see it all the way through.


You are opening your microphone, Bo, I wanted to give you a quick second.


>>  BO:  Yeah.  And the sentiments for the presentation, thank you.  He made the presentation and the model IGF idea came from Katerina, she's onsite, and we will work harder to get all the participation to fulfill the looking forward from the participants.  Thank you so much.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Very well said.  Just a final comment from Jesse coming through, amazing and we'll be able to collaborate on a model IGF too, with the Uganda youth IGF.  There's another potential collaboration that just popped up there.


And then Katerina says the realization will surely be a teamwork effort.  So definitely echoing what Bo has just shared.  Thank you so much, team, for a wonderful contribution and initiative.  Great work.  For our final presentation of the day, I'd like to hand over to Mr. Bibek.  Can I kindly hear your beautiful voice so I can be sure to share your presentation as well.


>>  BIBEK:  .


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: You are audible.  I'm getting yours.  Your presentation ready.


I'll share my screen shortly.


One moment.


All right.  Screen coming up.


Over to you, Bibek.


>>  BIBEK:  Thank you, Mauricia, this is Bibek from Kathmandu, Nepal.  We have  planned this initiative about the digital citizenship a proactive approach.  A comprehensive learning perform to make internet a safer space.  Next slide, please.


So our message going to talk about the introduction of our project, why we choose it.  What methodologies we will implement and the conclusion of the specific project.  Next slide, please.


We actually going to name this project as internet Gyan.  It's relevant for five or six languages.  What is an internet Gyan.  A data driven platform to raise awareness about internet safety and meaningful use, internet governance and the developing of ownership of digital citizenship opk among the next generation youth by incentivizing, rewarding the learning process.  Next slide, please.


So how do we incentivize the learning process.  The project could be high school students and university students to make them aware about the ownership of digital citizenship, meaningful use of internet and making them key letters.  Around the surrounding family and friends.  It is a data driven platform.  Its activities would develop in a feedback model.  It would create a mobile application and website and internet learning models where the platform is to create an interactive models and various topic of infrastructure, safety governance and meaningful use of internet for youth.  We would partner with businesses to reward the learning process after successful completion of the models.  Student would be rewarded with coupons upon completion of certain tasks.  We are planning to make youth are the most capability group to share and qualify the learning to the community in terms of digital and safety.  They will be empowered to represent themselves as a community leader.  Our learning method will focus on the case study.  The platform Willem if a size case and similar examples to relate with real life incidents of internet issues and even success stories of using the internet.  Next slide, please.


So why did we choose this particular use.  We look at both the demographic of Nepal and Haiti.  One quarter of the total population is age 13‑24, and about 50 percent of this population in both of the countries, and out of those 50, maximum internet users are social media users.  That's not really the internet we want to promote in coming days, using of internet in any community or any economics would help socioeconomic development of the country.  We already have a lot of capacity.  But the effectiveness of them are measured and success of programs aren't tabulated at any points.  Capacity development is for a specific purpose that increased complexity and challenges.  The fact that awareness and capacity development is not ‑‑ needs are more proactive approach within internet safety within the.  The ownership of the digital citizens should be developed within the users, specifically youth.  While the plans and policies are being made, it lacks the target group


Target ages and action areas which can be reinforced by the data driven capacity development program.  With all is the valving promise, it is a dire need to establish a platform to bring the youth as voices, next slide, please.


So what is our objective and purpose.  Our core objective is to create the comprehensive learning platform that is devised the learning process, the feeling of ownership to digital citizenship in next generation youth.  Promoting digital lit res.  Proette mowing Internet Society's vision and action plan at grassroots level.  Empowering youth stakeholder, creating synergy between digital space promotion and learning internet safety.  Data for good.  Where we use the data from this platform in other capacity development program and vice versa.  It targets in‑person capacity development and awareness programs and promoting socioeconomic development by protocolling Fintechs.  Once again, our core objective is targeting the next generation leaders on basics of this, of pillars of development in internet safety, making internet more safer and digital space by making them in power in this community.  Next slide, please.


  so talking about the methodology, how we are going to make it interactive and read rewarding platform.  First we promote this platform in schools and colleges.  For this website or in application, they create a profile and answer a specific set of questions on their knowledge and understanding of internet safety scenarios, next step, they would be assigned three compulsory modules.


Third, the multistakeholders internet governance.  Additional two modules would be assigned based on answered questionnaires.


So step 4, participant would answer multiple choice questions and be gifted with coupons and discount codes after passing the test.  Users can engage more and take on new modules mini course and participate in the event as well as referrals to friends for additional rewards.  Our final objective is to create a community that contributes in making internet a safer space.


Next slide, please.


Implementing this project we have a tentative work schedule where the first 4 to 6 months would be preparatory phase on developing platform, creating and researching study materials as we had discussed earlier where this material can be resourced and after the launch of the platform, school and colleges and also promotional campaign with partner companies, and we have a development phase where we have models and growing of the system for even bigger targeted audiences, our final development phase would be mini courses on internet governance and the safety and bridge to youth IGF and other capacity development programs.  We had a discussion about where this platform would be ending on, how it gives the youth activities, I think our initiative should be as realistic as possible and the target, though our objectives would be within our range where we can analyze what wrong thing we did or what other things needed to be improved, this part of this initiative is just a complement to the existing process, not any replacement to the process in this space right now.  Next slide, please.


So actually.  I'm going to ask audience a question for the conclusion.  Get to the next slide, please.  So I'm going to ask the audience this question, what do you see in this image.  Those in the online space write in the message, those in the hall, please can you tell what you see in this image?


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Any comments.  We have definitely smoothly transitioned to the discussion and exchange part of this presentation.  Mr. Mark, any questions or comments from ‑‑ what do they see on the screen?


>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you very much, Bibek for a very clear presentation.  I especially liked your thinking about the phases of taking forward the platform and promoting awareness and so on, very impressive.  Any responses to Bibek for reactions and contributions in the room?


No, no immediate reactions, I'm sure again, it's a case of people taking away what they've heard from you, Bibek and thinking about it and perhaps getting in touch subsequently.  Mauricia, back to you, maybe online, want to pick up anything there.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: We have plenty actually.  She Van says your image looks like a Pokémon.  Let me see if I can scroll down here.  Let's see who else.


Alejandra can't really see anything.  The comments are so funny.  Let me see what else are people seeing.  Kateryna says that's so precise.


I'm going to share the slide.  I'm just checking the comments.  Izaan says he sees a scene from an animatio.  Kateryna says she's a bike rider in a helmet.  Madiya says that is so precise, I'll reshare my screen and hand back over to you, Bibek.


>>  BIBEK:  Can we get to the next slide.




>>  BIBEK:  It's a frog.  Thank you to all those who had answers.  Exactly.  In this process is similar to this process.  So once you see this frog, you'll go back ‑‑ can we go back to the previous picture.




>>  BIBEK:  No way you can't unsee the frog, this is what we want to conclude.  Once we bring youths to awareness, what safety is, they're not able to ‑‑ they will follow or abide by the rules, there's other standards, what we have seen.  You can't really unsee the things you see, that's what the awareness process is really about.  That's what our core objective of this initiative is.  With that, I want to conclude my presentation.  Thank you.


Questions and comments are welcome.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Well done, that is fantastically done.  Okay.  Any comments or further feedback from the onsite participants.


>> MARK CARVELL: Mauricia, I don't see any comments in the room.  Maybe people realized we are running right out of time and people are coming in for the next meeting which starts in ten minutes.  Perhaps we better wrap up.  Maybe Alejandra wants to see a few words.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Definitely for sure.  We just had a few here.  But I'm sure, Bibek you can check in the comment section for some of some of the other feedback.  Before I close, miss Alejandra Prieto, any final words from you.


>> ALEJANDRA PRIETO: Thank you.  I just want to say that it was amazing.  Thank you so much.  So I'm going to thank, first, you, Mauricia, for the great online moderation, it was really wonderful, what you've done, thank you so much.  Mark, onsite moderation, amazing, thank you.  First time I'm seeing ‑‑ first time I'm seeing a hybrid model that is actually working perfectly.  We had engagement from onsite people, from online people, fantastic, and you both did it ‑‑ work.  What you've done is great.  Thank you very much.  And of course our youth ‑‑ IGF youth ambassadors.  I have to say every time I listen to your presentations, to your initiatives or just reading what you're presenting, I open my mouth and say what amazing things they are doing.  It's not that you work hard, really hard on these things and you get it done, by the time we know that you were quite busy, completing the program, attending all the sessions, thinking about ideas, making it like an initiative mode, working together with people who you didn't even know two months ago, now you are all working together to get in teams, like if you were in a classroom, right face‑to‑face, or even friends, right.  So this is amazing.  On the content you put together deserves a round of applause.  I would like everyone from youth, clapping, clapping, for this great job you have done, all ambassadors, thank you very much.  And ladies and gentlemen, you referenced things you are going to do, and you are going to do them.  I hope to see you in maybe a few months, maybe invited to an alumni event that Mauricia will help us cultivate and you will present what you've done from today when you presented to the audience your ideas and initiatives and in some ‑‑ I would say near future, what are the implications and impact that your initiatives are having.  So thank you so much, back to you, Mauricia for the final words.  Thank you.


>> MAURICIA ABDOL TSHILUNDA: Thank you so much.  And really that was so perfectly said that all I can add is fantastic work, team, congratulations, you did well, thank you for everyone at the onsite venue ‑‑ oh, my goodness, your participation, just your support and attending, we are so grateful, and we thank you so much for your time.  Mr. Mark Carvell, you are fantastic.  Thank you so much for all that you did to make sure that this session goes off smoothly.  To anyone that wants to find out more about the Internet Society fellowships and as well as the IGF youth ambassador program going forward, please feel free to reach out to fellowships at ISOC.org.  That's fellowships at ISOC.org for any further questions or comments.  And we hope to see you or hear from you very soon.  And take care.  Well done, everyone, and have a great day.


Bye‑bye for now.