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>> NATHALIA SAUTCHUK PATRICIO: Hello, hello. Can you hear me?
>> EUNICE PEREZ COELLO: I hear you very well. Can you hear me?
>> NATHALIA SAUTCHUK PATRICIO: Yes, I can hear you also.
>> EUNICE PEREZ COELLO: Nice to see you again.
>> LUCAS JORGE: You hear me, Nathalia?
>> NATHALIA SAUTCHUK PATRICIO: Yes.
>> LUCAS JORGE: I think we can start it.
>> Yes, I can hear you, Eduardo.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Oh, no. Just one second.
Hello, is it okay if you change Mr. Eduardo to Mr. Lucas? Because he's using his laptop. Thank you.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Now, I think I am Lucas. Lucas Jorge, J-O-R-G-E. Let me put in the chat my name. Because I enter here.
Was it you or Nathalia? Yes. Now -- now is Lucas Jorge. All right. All right.
Let's start the -- sorry, guys, for the confusion.
Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Lucas Jorge, and I'm a project analyst at the NIC.br. And today I am responsible for this workshop.
The theme of the workshop will be "Making the Internet Greener and More Sustainable." So it is a pleasure to be here. It is my first participation in the IGF, the spectator and as the presentation, presenter. So, it's a pleasure, it's an honour to participate in a huge, both in size and importance, event like IGF.
And I like to extend my greetings to the entire organization for the IGF opportunity to host this workshop and all the support provided throughout the process.
And a special thank you to the people of Saudi Arabia for hosting us in some good way. All right?
And before we start, I like to introduce our speakers. They was very helpful and is here today. We have two representatives of technical community. The first one is Eunice Perez Coello, from Mexico. She is an electronic engineering IT management Special Representative and Professor at the Technological Institute of Merida, ITMERIDA.
And Mr. Pedro Camera, Network Administrator in Engineering at the Coprel Telecom, with a Master's in Applied Computing.
And we have two representatives of civil society: Ms. Nathalia Patricio, a Ph.D. candidate and researcher at Karlsruhe, I think it is pronounced that, University of Applied Sciences in Germany. Is difficult to spell.
And we have Jeffrey Llanto, a pioneer in the Philippine IT industry. (?) first Internet in 1994 and confounded the CVISNET.
We brought together specialists from various fields in diversity and arranging the workshop with different perspectives.
Secondly, I like to thank you, my boss, Eduardo Barasal Morales. He is the one of the moderators. And he is the coordinator of training at NIC.br.
And one of our organizations, Natalia Rufino is my work colleague.
And last, but not least, our rapporteur, Tiago Nakamura, who is a member of the Youth Brazil Programme.
Okay. Now I like to share some slides. Let me share my screen. Let's see. Okay. Everyone can see the slides? All right. So, here are the people who I was talking to. And for the beginning, I like to introduce our agenda. The first part will be a brief introduction to set the compass for our topic.
Then I will use a Quizizz platform to encourage activity, activity, participation from the audience. I would like to thank you, all of you who are here with me on site.
And we use the Quizizz, and when I ask a question, and the people from here and online, you answer with only one word. And this word will guide the discussion and help us identify the most relevant points for the audience.
After gathering this answer, our speakers will comment on the policy question. We have three policy questions. And based in the experience and opinion, they will talk about our workshop.
We will hold three rounds of this discussion. And finally, we have an open mic session where the audience can ask question or share comments about the workshop.
Here we have the policy questions. The first one, what are -- what are the duties of the stakeholders for a greener Internet?
Two, how do sustainability efforts affect access for new users?
And three, how can we spread awareness and adoption of green standards?
Well, I will do my introduction very quickly. And I like to begin with a question. How many aspects of your lives don't involve the Internet? So, we see the Internet has become an intrinsic part of our lives, but this come with a significant energy cost to operate. And why all the time term cloud is often used, like a magical word. We know that clouds means Internet. And Internet relies on massive data centre that consume a lot of energy and sometimes using the nonrenewable sources for this.
Factors as today, a significant part of the Internet, a part of humanity still lacks the Internet access, and we see that in the opening session that one-third of the humanity remains offline. So we need to expand that. And if today Internet consumes a lot of energy, if we continue to expand the Internet, you use more resources than we have.
So, for this problem, there were a concept of green networks that minimize the environmental impact of Internet infrastructure, while optimize the resources, the use of these resources, then we talk about.
The goal is to do more with less, using fewer resources without the effective functionality of the Internet. So, use less resources and still have the Internet, still have the performance of the -- (no audio).
Like use the renewable energy in data centres, efficient manufacturing of network components. Development of energy-efficient protocols, and the dynamic resource scaling.
One good initiative that we saw in the last weeks was the green work group, the get ready for energy efficient network is a workshop within the IETF, the Internet Engineering Task Force and this group focuses on improving energy efficiency in network technologies, creating frameworks, metrics, creating new protocols or update new protocols, old protocols, to optimize the energy use in networks.
This last meeting of IETF happened last month in Dublin, Ireland. The discussion was recorded. So you can access the link in the YouTube and watch the session. I think they have, like, two hours of length. But that is an important initiative from the IETF.
Zoe what's the role of the stakeholders playing in the scenario? Collaboration, I think is the word key for this. So, we can address the critical uses like what is the problem and how we can solve this problem.
So, it's crucial to different stakeholders work together to drive this change. That is the main objective from today's workshop, that's because we invited some different people to talking about this problem and some results or maybe solutions to this problem.
So, the stakeholders can take, like, adopted green practices, innovating protocols and hardware and benefit the sustainability with the performance expression.
Well, what is the goal of the workshop? While we understand that one hour is not enough to solve all this problem, we want to raise the relevance about this topic which may be new to some people and aim to encourage the collaboration, gather new options from different test sectors on the Internet, and ultimately promote actions or create new initiatives from here in the IGF from here.
So, for that we like you online or on site to share your ideas and solution and collaborate to build a greener Internet.
So, this is a very quick introduction. And now we use a Quizizz platform to get some ideas. And after that, we -- you pass the floor for our speakers. So, let me share the Quizizz platform.
All right. So I think that everyone.
All right. So everyone can join the Quizizz. Just enter in your web browser, join my Quizizz.com. And put the pin is 410266.
And you have three questions. And we ask for you to respond, reply with only one word. And we can make a beautiful word cloud.
So everyone on site and online can join the Quizizz.
We have the word of Eduardo Morales join the Quizizz. Join the Quizizz.
So, we have 15 participants. I don't know how many we have on Zoom.
So, I think 15 is the number. All right.
So, I will start the Quizizz. Let's start the first question. The audience will have one minute to answer. So, think well. The first one, in one word, what do you consider essential for moving forward a greener Internet?
We have a great collaboration. Sustainability, agreement. Money. Money is important. Will is important thing. And just one word. Power management is two words. Energy efficient.
Seven seconds.
All right. Time is up. We have a lot of great ideas. But remember, only one word. I see two words together, like citizen centric, but all right.
And now I like to start with the first policy question. And the speakers can use these words and this question as a means to the presentation. Let me share again the PDF. All right. Here is the first policy question.
And I will start in the alphabetical order. So I like to invite Eunice Perez to talk about this first policy question. What are the duties of stakeholders for a greener Internet.
>> EUNICE PEREZ COELLO: I would like to thank you for the invitation, the first time I participate in this great forum and I am excited to talk about this very important topic, making greener and more sustainable in my role as academic.
Internet collaborative ecosystem. Each stakeholder has a unique vital grow in Internet service providers and such companions need to adopt energy (?) but global lens must (?) ecofriendly regulations. Business are expected to align with standards and producers can produce the digital (?) academia, connects that -- these efforts, but leading in innovation and education. For example, in the university (?) I am doing research of (?) (?) analyze the energy conception. Universities integrating into engineers curricula equipment future leaders with skills to others environment challenge academia as a facility partnership, translating (?) research into escalated solutions together, I think these efforts ensure we progress forward toward a greener Internet.
>> LUCAS JORGE DA SILVA: Thank you, Eunice. Great pleasure to be here with you and for accepting working in our workshop.
So, I like to invite Mr. Jeffrey Llanto to talk about this first policy question. What are the duties of stakeholders for a greener Internet?
>> JEFFREY LLANTO: Good evening, everybody and from us here in the Philippines right now, it's really raining very hard. And I think it's the fact of the global warming.
So, anyway, what are the duties of stakeholders for a greener Internet? First, my role here is that I am more on the connecting the community. I have projects that I have submitted to Lucas, together with APNIC that I go directly to the communities in realtime seniority on what is happening at the grassroots level. We are talking about (?) Internet connection. It doesn't even have electricity. Much worse, they don't even have water. These are the areas we (?) the GIDA or G-dot, the geographically isolated (?) areas. And these areas are very vulnerable, especially during disaster and climate change. So, we are talking about greener Internet. We need to go first to our -- the people who are really affected by climate change. So, there is one area that we are working with USAID that this submerge, it's part of another island in the Philippines, it submerge every high tide. So we provided them with a satellite Internet, then I notice that during high tide, the sea level will go inside a classroom. So, it's very funny because it's elevated, you know, the schools, the chairs have been elevated, so the students are up to date.
So, again, due to stakeholders for me for a greener Internet is first too big to look at real scenarios. What are happening, what is happening to the real world right now? As I mentioned today, that there's a typhoon coming to the Philippines. And it's very enlightening. Just to give you an idea, we name typhoons by alphabets, letter A to letter Z for each year. We run out of alphabet, that's why we go back to letter A. So, it's more than 24 typhoons that we encounter.
Again, greener Internet really needs to know more, especially in my opinion, especially the forest degradation is very important. And it's really affecting us here in the islands.
So, for me, again, stakeholders, we must know what is happening in (?). Thank you very much, Lucas.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Thank you, Jeffrey, it is important to remember the effect in the global warming and people who are directly affected because of that. All right?
So, I would like to invite Ms. Nathalia Patricio. Can you hear us?
>> NATHALIA SAUTCHUK PATRICIO: Yes. Thank you for participating in our workshop. What are the duties for stakeholders for a greener Internet?
>> NATHALIA SAUTCHUK PATRICIO: Thanks for the invitation to participate in this important workshop, directly greetings for (?) and Germany, just to let you know how to spell the name.
>> LUCAS JORGE: I try to spell right.
>> NATHALIA SAUTCHUK PATRICIO: No problem. This is very common. In your Quizizz, I put the will, yeah, the word will because I think (no audio) everything start with the will, yeah. Like that the stakeholders needs to have this common goal to go in direction of a greener Internet. Yeah.
But, of course, every stakeholder, they have their own contributions to this. For example, when we think about network providers, we imagine that they need to implement this in first way, like to have really, like, very practical stuff is to have hardware that is energy efficient and also try to change the way that they use energy, like to renewable energy and think about sustainable operations. And this is, of course, has some cost, especially when you are thinking that nowadays we are not using most of the equipments that we have are already in operation and some of them are not energy efficient. So, to move forward in this direction, to be more efficient, we have some costs.
So, in this way, the duty, for example, for government is to help in some way, like creating policies in this matter, like to help or provide some kind of modification, incentives to move in this direction, the direction to use better solutions in terms of energy.
So maybe governments will need to invest and help companies also to move in this direction, because it's not possible to imagine, especially in some countries that we know, like is the case of Brazil that has a lot of small network providers, if they will not have sufficient budgets to invest on that in this moment.
Or like our friend told us about communities, yeah. Those communities also will need, like, some help from governments and investments in this direction. They cannot afford this alone, yeah.
And how, as end users or consumers, we can also think about our duty on that. Is also, like, trying to manage our usage from Internet, because we know that when you use more, when it's not necessary. Of course, we are using resources. And this is not about saying that people will not use Internet anymore. But maybe be a little bit more aware how, what is the impact of this use in the sustainability of the world, as well as we imagine about water, for example, yeah. When you don't waste water because we know that this is a resource that impacts our life. And by the way, although Internet is not a resource as a water, this impacts also in other kinds of resources that is like water or something like that. So, this is something that we have to increase the awareness in the users for that.
So, this is some of the things that I would like to point out, but there is much more that we could think about that is of the stakeholders, yeah, in this matter.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Perfect. Thank you, Nathalia. And it's funny that you mentioned the ISPs, Internet service providers, because the next person, the next speaker is Pedro Camera, and he's an ISP (?).
So, Pedro, as a professional, the ISPR, what are the duties of the stakeholders for a greener Internet?
>> PEDRO CAMERA: The stakeholder for greener Internet involve coordination efforts to reducing environmental impact across the industry. ISP must provide energy efficient operation by optimization data centre, adopting greener hardware and implementing sustainable (?) like equipment recycles and renew energy adaptation, governance and regulator play a key role by enacting policy that promote sustainability, providing incentives for using renewable energy. And setting back marks for energy efficiency, (?) manufacturers need to design ecofriendly hardware with lower energy consumption, lower lifespan and recyclable materials.
Meanwhile, business, businesses and consumers so adopt sustainable habits so reducing unnecessary traffic and responsibly recycle devices.
Collaboration across all these group is essential to build greener, more sustainable Internet.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Thank you, Pedro.
Let's get the next question in our word cloud. Let me go out from the Zoom and share the Quizizz.
All right. And now the Quizizz. Oh, what is the Quizizz? Ah, here.
So, next question, remember, one word. In your opinion, what is the biggest challenge for sustainable Internet infrastructure? We are talking about the duties of stakeholders. Now, what is the biggest challenge to sustainable Internet infrastructure?
Once again, we have money. Fuel. All right. Disparity. Costs. Regulation. Relevance. Now much, much better, with only one word.
10 seconds. Three, two, one.
So, we have a lot of interesting words, like policies, regulation, government, disparity, obsolescence is important, money, costs, fuel, power, energy, scale, standards, and relevance.
So, now I will do the invert order. I will start with Pedro. So, let's get the next policy question. Let me share. The next policy question is, how do sustainability efforts affect access for new users? As you, Pedro, is an ESP. What do you think about that? How this affect the new users, like new users in your ESP, how this affected?
>> PEDRO CAMERA: Okay. Sustainability efforts can positively and negatively impact access for new user, depending how they are implemented.
On one hand, automation energy (?) and infrastructure can lower operation cost for ISP and potentially reducing service cost in making Internet access more affordable.
Efforts to extend the lifecycle of device drove recycle can also create more affordable options for users and underserved audience.
However, there can be challenges such as initial cost of transitions to greener technology, which might lead to higher prices or is lower expansion into a newer region.
To ensure sustainability those in higher access stakeholders must balance green (?) with the affordability (?) solution and promotion partnership that expanded sustainable connectivity to underconnected areas.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Thank you, Pedro. And one important thing that I want to highlight is the use of IPv6 and IPv6 wasn't designed to sustainability, but when we use the IPv6 and reduce the use of CG net, for example, in Internet service provider, the cost or in the consumer consumption of energy is lower. So, you are saving money and saving the use of energy.
So, IPv6 is not the main idea of -- IPv6 is not be a green protocol, but with the use, the consequence is less use of energy and this is good for the environmental.
So, now I like to ask to Nathalia, with your years of experience, what is your thoughts about how do you sustainability efforts affect access for new yours.
>> NATHALIA SAUTCHUK PATRICIO: First of all, I would agree very much with what Pedro was telling about the positive and negative aspects. I think he put very well this, that we have a kind of trade-off between sustainability and the affordability of the Internet infrastructure, especially when we are talking about developing countries, such as in the south global, yeah, like Brazil and Africa and other countries like that, because in the beginning, implementing those new devices with sustainable or energy-efficient devices would raise the costs because we have to change whatever we are using now for these new devices and this new cost money, for sure.
And this needs to come from somewhere, yeah. And this is something that is a kind of, a difficult trade-off. Because we know that in long these costs will pay, will be paid by having less consumption of energy and also to affect less the world in general. But in the beginning, it's very difficult, because we have to change this. And you know that this is something that a lot of companies, and especially the smallest ones, will be very much impacted by that because they don't have so much money in hand to invest on that or such as also communities that they are doing, like, their own networks for communities. They don't have this money so easily and to do this.
And nowadays, yet, this kind of devices are kind of not so much available everywhere. So, we can see, for example, in Europe, they have scales of energy efficient for various devices and if people try or tend to buy the ones more efficient, but until you change the ecosystem, this will take very long time for that.
So, but, so to summarize the influence, I think it's -- but in the long term it's good for the whole society because we need a more sustainable world. It's like about surviving in this world. But the negative aspect is that maybe would increase the barriers to these new users, especially in low-income regions. So, that's my view about that.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Thank you, Nathalia.
And I like to move on to Jeffrey. And considering the project that you work and you mentioned early, I believe you have some very fascinating opinions about the access for new users. So, Jeffrey, how do sustainability efforts affected access for these new users?
>> JEFFREY LLANTO: Yes, Lucas, this is very appropriate right now. One word that I can answer policy question number 2, it's empowerment. Empowerment is very important to the communities. First and foremost, nothing about the ISPs, they will never set up an infrastructure where there's no return of investment, right? So, we have some eight pilot areas right now working with the Philippine government and a group called unconnected.org that provides satellite connection to underserved areas.
As I mentioned that even though there's a project that we call as islet, like a small island, it's the Internet for sustainable livelihood education and research. So, it's an empowerment of the communities that they will be able, first, to operate, sustain, and generate funds from the communities.
The technology is given that there's technology, and, again, how do you sustain the Internet connection on the community level? So, we are talking about residents who really doesn't have the Smartphones, they don't have the laptop. Let me give you an example on an island with a population about 1200 people. It's a small island. They don't have water. They don't have (?) city.
When we provided them with the first interconnection, a broadband connection on their island, we never expected that the people were so happy. When there was already Internet connection, it compromise different opportunities. A month later, we noticed that there was already a coin operated Internet in which the residents will put coins for how many minutes of Internet connection.
So, innovation, again, it developed into some kind of fruit bearing. And then all of a sudden one of the communities and the house, it brought a Smartphone -- I mean a smart TV, then he operated a community-based movie theater. Then they subscribe to NetFlix.
So, those are the things that really need to be focused, especially for countries like the Philippines. And the Philippines, if you take note that it is one of the most expensive Internet connection around the world and also the slowest. It's because there's only two big telecommunications can have Internet. And it's very timely, as I mentioned to you, Lucas, because tomorrow the CNET already have a new bill to cut off this kind of monopoly or duopoly, as we call it, tomorrow there is a senate and we are also one of the strong promoter so that this bill will be placed like other places, just like the CV convention I started back in 1994. We used to be an Internet service provider. But when wisnis comes, it becomes a duopoly, the giant telecoms are running it. I'm not saying it's bad, but it never really trickles down to the community.
For the past 30 years, from the start of the Internet in the Philippines, I was there, I was teaching people how to use the Internet, until now, 30 years later. I am still doing that and working to unconnected islands.
So, it's really my passion, you know. So, again, going back to policy question, it's really empowerment. You need to put the people in charge so that they can operate it by themselves. So, thank you. That's my point, Lucas.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Thank you very much, Jeffrey.
Ask the last one, Eunice, what is your perspective to how the sustainability efforts affect access for new users?
>> EUNICE PEREZ COELLO: Thank you, Lucas. I want to start to say I am agree with my colleagues. Moving towards sustainability to entitle Internet infrastructure is not without challenge. First, there's the issues of resource disparities, particularly in regions like Latin America where the rural and underserved communities struggle to access basic connectivity, let alone ecofriendly solutions.
I think another is the lack of the global consensus of a green Internet standards. It could be create fragmentation and delay in progress, limit knowledge and expertise in implementing sustainable technologies further complicating this effort.
And this challenge directly influenced access, sustainable infrastructures can be costly. Potentially delaying the connection of new users. And widening the digital divide. I think in the academia, must step up and (?) with innovative researchers, but also through direct engagement with affected communities by maybe conducting regional studies and involving local voices, we can ensure solution and could be our inclusive and effective.
Moving, it's complex, talking about the movement towards (?) in Latin America. For the diverse geographic make it's hard and sure ecofriendly connectivity everywhere. Academia can help, I think, by designing a cost effective solution and involve communities in decision-making.
Maybe I could say an example. A partnership between universities also mentioned and rural cooperatives in Mexico and has shown how academia can bring practical insight to underserved areas. And I think one of the challenges that my colleagues say. That's all. Thank you.
>> LUCAS JORGE: All right. Thank you for the insights, Eunice.
We have little, little time. So we have to rush a little bit. Now we do the last question to the audience. Let me share the Quizizz. And now the last question. What do you believe is essential for promoting green practices in Internet infrastructure? Training, education, multistakeholderism. Knowledge. Money. Money always show in the answers. Responsibility. Partnership. Studies, collaboration.
Time is up. So these are our words.
And now I will pass for the next policy question. And because we have a tight time now, I would like to ask for our speakers to be very briefly, like one minute to answer this posed question, if possible. How can we spread awareness, adoption of green standards? And I will (no audio) energy more toward project. What is the best way to spread awareness and adoption of green standards?
>> EUNICE PEREZ COELLO: Hello?
>> LUCAS JORGE: Yes. We can hear you.
>> EUNICE PEREZ COELLO: I didn't hear, Lucas, if it is for me. I start?
>> LUCAS JORGE: Yes, yes.
>> EUNICE PEREZ COELLO: Sorry, okay. Well, in one minute --
>> LUCAS JORGE: Yes, very briefly.
>> EUNICE PEREZ COELLO: Strategies I think is education, principally, maybe (?) and another in collaborations. Okay. I said three. Education, collaboration and incentives. And these three strategic must be create these adaptations.
And I think the road greener requires all of these academia can lead awareness campaigns. And collaboration among the stakeholders is the key to the overcoming regional challenge and we move to provide practical incentives such as seeds for adopting certain practices and certifications maybe for meeting a green benchmark. I could say a lot. But I am left to all my colleagues.
>> LUCAS JORGE: One minute is hard.
>> EUNICE PEREZ COELLO: Sorry. Okay.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Okay. Thank you Eunice.
Now, let's hear about this with Nathalia as a researcher. How do you think we can give more spread for awareness and adoption of green standards? One minute (laughter).
>> NATHALIA SAUTCHUK PATRICIO: Wow, one minute. I think -- wow, this is difficult. I think education campaigns is one thing that is important. But also we have to make some kind of incentives programme, especially from the -- by the government side to promote this among companies and also the community, and also standards certification, this kind of stuff all can help, like, to go in this direction. This is my one minute.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Thank you (laughter).
Now, Jeffrey, one minute, how do we spread awareness and adoption of green standards?
>> JEFFREY LLANTO: Yes. I think we can spread awareness by involving the communities, giving them ownership of what the adoption of green standards is.
So, first, it's very important that this will really trickle down to the people who are affected, affected by the green standards. And, again, going back, green standards, really address the -- you know, the future of especially on the climate change.
So, again, awareness and especially for the ownership of the community that they need to have it run and be able to sustain those kind of not only the technology, but also the real system, the infrastructure, and how it is being brought to the community level. That's it, Lucas.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Thank you, Jeffrey.
And finally, Pedro, how can we spread awareness and adoption green standards, very quickly, one minute.
>> PEDRO CAMERA: Okay. Explained already, adoption of green standards require collaboration, education, and green incentives. Stakeholders like ISPN governance and organization must lead by example, implementing green practices and sharing social star to the most that benefits.
Public awareness campaigns can highlight the importance of sustainable Internet practice targeting both business and customers. Governance and industry bodies can establish certification in coordination, recognition programme for green compliance incurring widespread adoption training programme for IT professional, can ensure that green standards are understood and applied in network design and operation.
Lastly, furthering -- fostering partnership between stakeholders at ISPN and environment organizations can apply outreach efforts and make green standards share priority across the industry.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Thank you, Pedro.
And I appreciated a lot of the speakers and the time passed fast but it was a pleasure to be here to share the table with all this professional. I think that we can learn a lot about the infrastructure, the green standards, and I want to continue this conversation in an email or in another opportunity. And I like to invite Tiago to provide a very quickly closing remarks. And thank you all, apologize for the rush in the end. And any neighbors. Was my first time and I'm very grateful to share the table with some special members of the community. Thank you.
>> TIAGO JUN NAKAMURA: As we come to a close I want to thank a moment to express my heartfelt thanks to all of you, to our incredible speakers, thank you for sharing your expertise, your insights and your time, your contributions has sparked meaningful discussions and left us with valuable knowledge to carry forward and to audience, thank you for your participation, your presence here today reflects a commitment to growth and learning. It what makes events like this truly impactful. This workshop is a testament to what we can achieve with knowledge shared and connections are made.
Lasting ideas were explored today and continue to collaborate and innovate together. It is clear that further multistakeholder discussions are needed towards green networks, and we hope that everyone here participate on this journey during development over the next years.
Thank you all. And we look forward to seeing you at future workshops here.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Thank you, Tiago. And we have three times -- three minutes. If anyone here in the audience can make a statement or a comment. What is your name and where are you from?
>> PARTICIPANT: Thank you very much. My name Jimson Fuay, from African citizen liaison from Nigeria. I work as a consultant going to data centre digitalization.
This is a great workshop, excellent, but I just have one comment to make, the co-structure process of using green. If you look at how IPv6 has been adopted maybe in France, they brought about smart regulation, so they required ISPs, new ISP to deploy to use IPv6 for social superior, so in the same way our regulators can easily fast track the process. Regulation, you need to deploy, you need to have this green, it could mean so forth and so on, give them a timeline. That will help a lot. Thank you.
>> LUCAS JORGE: Thank you. I like when people talk about IPv6, always a pleasure.
And one from the audience, want to -- all right. Where are you from? What is your name?
>> PARTICIPANT: Thank you. My name is Mariana. I am from Brazil, and, actually, I had a question or maybe some suggestion. I guess sustainability is a term and the concern of the decade and the influence of the digital era on energy consumption, it should be considered. And when we are talking about the infrastructure.
Internet, it's interesting to consider that in a broad way. I mean, we are talking about the infrastructure of the Internet to have the -- all the data transporting to the counting for the counting, network, okay, but we need a challenge. Okay. Yeah, I have problem with my mic (?). But it's interesting to address our conception to maintain, to create and to share all the datas that we are using now with the AR models or we have the powerful competitional power to.
What I want to know is when we are using here the greener Internet, we are just talking about the infrastructure tool that the providers or we are addressing all these meaningful ecosystem?
>> LUCAS JORGE: Thank you. And I like to thank you all, the speakers once again, the members here in the table, and the audience. And I have to close because we don't have much time.
Thank you all. And we see another opportunity in the future. Bye.
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